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Why XML can suck...

XML is _great_ for standardizing on for small B2B messages. XML is _terrible_ when used as a database because it does not scale. Parsing a thousand records is "eh". Now do it for 8,000 (current 20 GB iPod claims 4,000 songs, assume double for the 40 GB drive)? This is why people have problems with thousands of images in iPhoto: the sheer size of the XML file/plist that is an index of everything. To be honest, I don't have a solution. You can't build MySQL databases into everything, but there are more efficient solutions than XML.

I was going to bitch about "why would people want 802.11g in their iPod?" Then I realized that it would be cool to have a Bluetooth headset (yes I know BT and 802.11 are completely different, just stay with me for a second) for your cell phone that could double as earphones for your iPod. When a call comes in, the music mutes out and when you hang up the music kicks back in. All without wires. That would be pretty neat.

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Originally posted by rugby


40gb iPod? that's quite a few songs there. I'm thinking there might be some other uses out there for a 40gb iPod like video storage.


well personally I don't compress my music at all. So 40GB would hold some 1,000 4 min AIFF files. And since I have somewhere around 4,000 AIFF files I need the 160GB iPod to come out.

Tyler
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo


well personally I don't compress my music at all. So 40GB would hold some 1,000 4 min AIFF files. And since I have somewhere around 4,000 AIFF files I need the 160GB iPod to come out.

Tyler

what about just making 256 bitrate mp3s? I doubt anybody could notice the difference through the iPod's minijack hookup.... and 256 bitrate mp3s were shown to have fooled many audiophiles using >$30,000 equip.
 
Re: And to go way off topic for a moment,

Originally posted by Tom800
has anyone else seen that nutter on eBay selling a 23" HD Cinema Display for $0.01? And onther person is selling 30 of them for $500 each...

Must be something about eBay I don't know....

They're probably trying to rip you off. I've learned that when looking for Powerbooks on eBay, as with any deal, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is." There are so many Powerbook scams on eBay it's not even funny. Be careful out there:)
 
A 40 GB iPod would be anything but practical. I don't think Apple would make one.
I see a hard drive like that inside a DLD/Tablet of some sort...
 
Originally posted by TyleRomeo


well personally I don't compress my music at all. So 40GB would hold some 1,000 4 min AIFF files. And since I have somewhere around 4,000 AIFF files I need the 160GB iPod to come out.

Tyler

Just use 320Kb/s, VBR, Normal Stereo and smart encoding. With these options no one anywhere will be able to tell the difference between the MP3 or the original CD. At those settings you get an average of about 2-2.5MB/minute of audio.


The fact is that CDs are pretty crummy to start with so it's fairly easy to duplicate there audio quality with a much smaller file size. Now when audio goes to 96KHz/24bit then it will be hard to duplicate with MP3 quality but AAC/MPEG 4 should be able to do it.
 
Originally posted by Choppaface


what about just making 256 bitrate mp3s? I doubt anybody could notice the difference through the iPod's minijack hookup.... and 256 bitrate mp3s were shown to have fooled many audiophiles using >$30,000 equip.

I know MP3s above 192 sound very very good. But look at it this way. If I want to transfer all my songs onto my Powermac it takes a while to edit each song to my personal anal liking. And once AAC comes out then everyone will have to re-edit or re-import their music libraries and by the time that happens there will be MPEG-5 or something else.

Hard drives are huge now. Maxtor has 250GB 7200RPM drive, lacie has a 500GB 5400RMP firewire drive out. So there no reason why I need to compress my music.

Tyler
 
Waiting...

I have been waiting to buy an iPod, but decided to wait until after MWSF, but now I am wondering if I should wait longer. Any thoughts on when this new chip could be in an iPod and sold?
 
Re: Waiting...

Originally posted by MacFan25
I have been waiting to buy an iPod, but decided to wait until after MWSF, but now I am wondering if I should wait longer. Any thoughts on when this new chip could be in an iPod and sold?

After an upgrade to a product hasn't come out for at last 8-12 months, it's wise wait until the next major update. After the upgrade to the iBooks, I supposed that a form-factor change in either the iBooks or PowerBooks would be coming soon, and I turned out to be right, I only had to wait a few months for the new PowerBooks and now I will be the proud owner of a 12". So your best bet might be to wait just a little bit longer.:D
 
Some people are crazy, not compressing music, needing more than 15,000 songs capacity. Whatever. Could someone explain how XML and parsing in general works?

As for the consumers on this thread:
160kbps is the gold standard for MP3. It provides sound most people (shut up audiophiles) can't differenciate from CD audio.

128kbps provides slightly better quality in AAC (MPEG-4 audio). Thus the iPod capacities will go from 1000/2000/4000 to something like 1250/2500/6000. Give or take, OSX calculator is too slow, i'm not gonna do the math.
 
basically, the pain of xml is that it is sequetial read. it has to start at the beginning and scan it's way to the bit you a re looking for.

i agree xml is great for config files but the itunes library is a database not a config.

and as for my reference to itunes 4 being demoed, i guess i should have thought a little more before posting. steve demoed with phil the rendevous itunes. not necessarily itunes 4, maybe itunes 3.02 (with aac!!!!!)

i would like to see a poll of who expects ipod updates within what timeframe..

what are the chances that with iLife introduction steve will surprise us with itunes 3.5 and an updated ipod?
 
I expect Apple to release a new iPod, iMac, eMac, and iTunes 4 at the same time. You can appeal to a lot of people all at once that way.
 
on that thinking it will be wighty soon, right? the imacs are are due for updating.
 
hmmmm, this seems a logical scenario, pleasepoint out the flaws:

iLife comes jan 25. for the new integration features would itunes not need at seast a minor change?
apple will want to make splash at the launch right? so new itunes and ipod would be an the mark, right?
 
I could see iTunes 4 and a new iPod having a simultaneous or near-simultaneous launch, but the iMacs and the eMacs are coming too soon for that.
iTunes 4 is still over a month or two away...
 
Re: I could fill the 40 gigs ;-)

Originally posted by Tom800
But my PB 30Gb HD is full, so give us AAC too, Apple!

Quicktime 6.1 has just appeared on my Software update - includes AAC encoding...

Significant?
 
QuickTime

Originally posted by artistry


Quicktime 6.1 has just appeared on my Software update - includes AAC encoding...

Significant?

QuickTime has always been able to read AAC due to MPEG-4, I think, so I think this is probably just to help you get more audio quality out of QuickTime Broadcaster, as I don't see how this could affect iTunes.

But I could be wrong. . . . . .:)
 
Re: QuickTime

Originally posted by MacKid


QuickTime has always been able to read AAC due to MPEG-4, I think, so I think this is probably just to help you get more audio quality out of QuickTime Broadcaster, as I don't see how this could affect iTunes.

But I could be wrong. . . . . .:)

We live in hope.

I installed Quicktime Broadcaster the otehr day to have a play. got a god awful feedback howl the moment I launched it which continued after restarting. Had to turn off audio through speakers to stop it. damned careless error on Apple's part... :mad:
 
a 40 gb hardrive would fulfill my mp3 needs, while also being a nice external firewire drive:)
 
Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
I expect Apple to release a new iPod, iMac, eMac, and iTunes 4 at the same time. You can appeal to a lot of people all at once that way.

Do you think that, if you are right, those things will be released on Jan. 25?
 
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