4850 worth waiting?

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  1. xiaomei macrumors member

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    Is there so much difference between geforce 130 and 4850 in performance, that is worth waiting at least 4 weeks for shipping?
     
  2. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    YES!!!
     
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    I decided not to wait and went for GT130. If you want to play games, go for 4850 otherwise GT130 is enough
     
  4. ebd.i.am macrumors 6502

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    Yes.

    just wait -- it will be worth it in the long run.
     
  5. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    Are there any actual head to heads of these two cards?

    I went here: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...q3-2008/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-Totals,795.html

    But there is no GT130 listed. Knowing that the GT130 is just a renamed G94 card I looked for anything 9400 and couldn't see that either.

    If I use that site to compare the HD 4850 and the 9600 GT they're damn close actually. Heh, after my big "YES!!" remark.

    Anyone know why this may not be a good substitute comparison?
     
  6. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    The GT 130 looks more like the 9800M GTS. Considering that it's just a little faster than the previous 8800M GTS, you can compare it to that card.

    NVIDIA Geforce 8800 GTS 2369.60
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 2965.60

    The GT 130 could be something like 2400-2500
     
  7. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Are the iMac cards laptop or desktop based this time?
     
  8. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    They seem to be desktop.
     
  9. Theraker007 macrumors regular

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    isnt it amazing that almost a week later we still arent 100% sure about what is a pretty important detail?
     
  10. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    How can we be sure when no one can get his/her hands on the Radeon? We can't know anything about the Radeon before the 1st/2nd week of April. If the GT 130 is the 9800M GTS it is a laptop card.
     
  11. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    If they are laptop based then the 4850 seems to have quite the edge on the GT130 with a 3dmark06 of nearly twice as much according to notebookcheck.net.
     
  12. Theraker007 macrumors regular

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    i was implying that i think its irresponsible of apple to not just be forthright about these kinds of things. seems pretty ridiculous to me
     
  13. Hellhammer Moderator

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    I only found GT 130M which isn't the same
     
  14. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    Actually I think you should see the benchmark of the 9800M GTS since it's specs are almost identical to the GT 130 (and different from the GT 130M), as tested here:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7227477&postcount=22

    so the results would be:

    9800M GTS: 9692
    Mobility Radeon 4850: 9577

    But as we don't know how the test was performed as well as if the Radeon is the mobility version and if the cards are over/underclocked, the results show nothing yet. We'll have to wait for someone to actually run a test with the iMac w/Radeon to see the real results. Until then, the benchmarks cannot really show anything.
     
  15. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    That is why we need to know. In the previous iMacs, both cards were of the mobile variety but marketed by Apple to imply that they were desktops.
     
  16. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Yes. Its critical. The difference between a GT130 and a GT130M is so big.
     
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    According to the post above, the difference between GT130 and 4850 isn't really big?
     
  18. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    1.The test is irrelevant unless it's run between 2 same machines, because 3dmark06 relies on the CPU too.

    2.Furthermore, Apple often modifies the GPUs, so the GPUs could be under/over clocked.

    3.We're still not sure whether the Radeon is Mobility or not.

    So, IF the Radeon is the mobility version and the GPUs run at their normal speed, the difference is minimal. Otherwise, I don't know.
    Until a benchmark between the GT 130 and the Radeon is done between two exactly same iMacs, it's useless to keep looking at tests-
     
  19. synagence macrumors 6502a

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    Actually ... to the average off-the-street consumer why would they suspect it to the be the mobility version?
    The apple site, specs and no-doubt sales staff make no hint of it being mobility .... its only US that are doubting and questioning (granted based on experience) so technically Apple have said (by implication) that its the normal desktop version
     
  20. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Reading around various threads, from what I can gather the GT130 in the iMac is most likely NOT a GT130M but some other variant of a new nVidia card. It could be a downclocked desktop card or a mobile card.
     
  21. EmperorDarius macrumors 6502a

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    It really looks like the 9800M GTS

    Look at the specs of the GT 130 here:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=7227477&postcount=22

    and the ones of the 9800M GTS here:

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9800M-GTS.9918.0.html

    They're exactly the same!
     
  22. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Now we only have to wait for a 4850 iMac to show up. Most likely a mobile card as well.
     
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    A question, is 9800M GTS a good card for gaming for example?
     
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  25. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Could be. Probably amounts to the same thing in the end. I feel for people trying to make a choice on this one. If it were my money, I would wait until we knew exactly what is involved here.
     

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