I am a newbie, I guess, to the flashing of these Pc cards to use in a Mac. I think it is great that some of you guys have the knowledge to do this. I have had a success with an ATI 4870, with tjlazer's guidance. I have been trying to find info on the 4850's, but the post ended with no resolve a few years ago. Maybe I have not found the right post for the 4850's. Any help in locating some rome for these would be great. I have successfully screwed up a 4890-Vapor and wondering if anybody has a way to un-screw it. I used Zeus last night to flash it, but I had already flashed it with a different rom and never reinstalled the original rom before using Zeus, so I ended up with black screen and no boot at all on the computers, Mac and Pc. Does anyone have anything to share about these cards??? I have been through pages upon pages of these forums, outdated links, people who don't reply with the resolutions that were given to them, to see if anything worked, very frustrating.!!!!!