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Other 48MP only for RAW?
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From Apple website newsroom:
For the first time ever, the Pro lineup features a new 48MP Main camera with a quad-pixel sensor that adapts to the photo being captured, and features second-generation sensor-shift optical image stabilization. For most photos, the quad-pixel sensor combines every four pixels into one large quad pixel equivalent to 2.44 µm, resulting in amazing low-light capture and keeping photo size at a practical 12MP. The quad-pixel sensor also enables a 2x Telephoto option that uses the middle 12 megapixels of the sensor for full-resolution photos and 4K videos with no digital zoom. This delivers optical quality at a familiar focal length, which is great for features like Portrait mode. The quad-pixel sensor also brings benefits to pro workflows, optimizing for detail in ProRAW. And with a new machine learning model designed specifically for the quad-pixel sensor, iPhone now shoots ProRAW at 48MP with an unprecedented level of detail, enabling new creative workflows for pro users.
For the first time ever, the Pro lineup features a new 48MP Main camera with a quad-pixel sensor that adapts to the photo being captured, and features second-generation sensor-shift optical image stabilization. For most photos, the quad-pixel sensor combines every four pixels into one large quad pixel equivalent to 2.44 µm, resulting in amazing low-light capture and keeping photo size at a practical 12MP. The quad-pixel sensor also enables a 2x Telephoto option that uses the middle 12 megapixels of the sensor for full-resolution photos and 4K videos with no digital zoom. This delivers optical quality at a familiar focal length, which is great for features like Portrait mode. The quad-pixel sensor also brings benefits to pro workflows, optimizing for detail in ProRAW. And with a new machine learning model designed specifically for the quad-pixel sensor, iPhone now shoots ProRAW at 48MP with an unprecedented level of detail, enabling new creative workflows for pro users.
MKBHD said that it’s only for ProRAW in his first impressions video. Lame if true.
As long as the masses think they’re getting 48mp it’s all good.
Kind of misleading if true especially since ProRAW is not even available on the entry Pro model (128 GB) if I am not mistaken
It is still using the whole 48MP sensor to capture the picture, it will just condense it to a 12MP file. But the end result is still a higher quality picture, than if it was taken with a 12MP sensor.
Lol full frame sensors can just about handle 40-50mp (Sony A1, Canon R5 etc) let alone a 1/1.28” iPhone camera sensor
The reason they decided on making HEIC / JPEGs 12 mp is probably because they don’t have the computational power / algorithms to make compressed 48mp look good on such a small sensor
I’m even skeptical about the results with ProRAW. Yes you get more information so can raise exposure in shadows etc, but the fact that in the demo, they only showed one (very bright conditioned) example of a zoomed 48mp photo is telling
You’re probably going to get very noisy images with muddy detail
The real question is.. what looks better, 13 pro with the smaller sensor, or 14 pro with the larger sensor, quad pixel situation
Interested to see results
The reason they decided on making HEIC / JPEGs 12 mp is probably because they don’t have the computational power / algorithms to make compressed 48mp look good on such a small sensor
I’m even skeptical about the results with ProRAW. Yes you get more information so can raise exposure in shadows etc, but the fact that in the demo, they only showed one (very bright conditioned) example of a zoomed 48mp photo is telling
You’re probably going to get very noisy images with muddy detail
The real question is.. what looks better, 13 pro with the smaller sensor, or 14 pro with the larger sensor, quad pixel situation
Interested to see results
Try printing a 12MP photo on a large canvas, you need at least 32MP for a good print! Advertising iPhone 14 Pro and its 48MP, while in reality for everyday photos the megapixels remains 12, is shameless.
Apple does not use the higher resolution to bring 8K to video, nor does it push too hard on the 48-megapixel photos, partly because the iPhone only shoots this way in ProRAW mode and only if you decide to do so (otherwise it stays at 12 megapixels), it just needed more megapixels because the power achieved by the processor allowed it to process them.
The 48 megapixels are used to increase the amount of data to feed to the Deep Fusion and Smart HDR system, and the result according to the company is much sharper photos.
The 48 megapixels are used to increase the amount of data to feed to the Deep Fusion and Smart HDR system, and the result according to the company is much sharper photos.
The biggest advantage to the full 48MP image is for editing, thus unlocking the full resolution only for RAW makes a ton of sense. It keeps the file sizes for JPEG images smaller, no one will need a full 48MP image for posting to socials, but the option is there for professional or hobbyist photographers.
You are right. But I don‘t want to use raw format but jpeg and not only 12MP. Why not?
Very easy to convert raw to HEIC. There are many times when I accidentally activate raw. What I do is to use shortcuts and within secs, I get the compressed heic version
It's a balance of using all of the megapixels available to improve a smaller compressed image format, with a smaller file size, for the average user while also providing the serious photographer a solution that they will be familiar with.
You have to remember your target audience when it comes to printing. Unfortunately when it comes to printing there is more than just bigger size print = more megapixels needed. Billboard size prints can be done with 2mp the dpi doesn't need to be high because your viewing distance is so far. Using your example of 12MP on a large canvas the true answer is that it depends on the intended viewing distance.
Yeah, I understand the desire. I just wanted to mention the mp/print really comes down to intended viewing distance for when others see the thread.
Come on, we gotta give those servers some compression work to do... I wonder how much processing compression takes (I'm not into photo editing, I do music and video) but if it causes more strain on trash social media I'm all for it
Hmmmm, are we sure about this though? I can’t find any footnotes on this on Apple’s website and they normally add stuff like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if it requires ProRAW but we need confirmation one way or another from Apple.
And yes, I know who MKBHD is
Post in thread '48MP only for RAW?'Hmmmm, are we sure about this though? I can’t find any footnotes on this on Apple’s website and they normally add stuff like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if it requires ProRAW but we need confirmation one way or another from Apple.
And yes, I know who MKBHD is
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/48mp-only-for-raw.2357558/post-31414372