4G in the UK this year?

[Joe23]

Disclaimer: My knowledge on this subject, very little.

I've just read an article on Digital Spy about a potential joint venture between Orange and T-Mobile to bring 4G to the UK this year on the existing spectrum.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a370876/4g-mobile-could-become-available-in-the-uk-this-year.html

What are the chances of this actually happening? Could be great news for us soon-to-be iPad 4G owners...

 

[Lastof]

Disclaimer: My knowledge on this subject, very little.

I've just read an article on Digital Spy about a potential joint venture between Orange and T-Mobile to bring 4G to the UK this year on the existing spectrum.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a370876/4g-mobile-could-become-available-in-the-uk-this-year.html

What are the chances of this actually happening? Could be great news for us soon-to-be iPad 4G owners...

Won't affect iPad (3rd Generation) owners. Wrong frequency for the chipset used.

 

[striker33]

Why is there another thread on this? Has Apple involuntarily caused mass Dyslexia?

 

[redwilson]

Won't affect iPad (3rd Generation) owners. Wrong frequency for the chipset used.

I do believe apple could alter it someway with firmware, they would not ship out a product knowing one of its new major features cant work in the future.

 

[Joe23]

Why is there another thread on this? Has Apple involuntarily caused mass Dyslexia?

Sorry, I did have a quick scan through the posts but didn't see anything specifically about this potential deal. Berate away!

 

[Silver Sun]

I do believe apple could alter it someway with firmware, they would not ship out a product knowing one of its new major features cant work in the future.

It can't, it's hardware that's why theres two versions in the US.

 

[Chelmo]

Sorry, I did have a quick scan through the posts but didn't see anything specifically about this potential deal. Berate away!

I started the other thread a minute after yours lol! So didn't see anything myself.

I also read something about 4G in UK with orange and T-mobile this year which prompted me to start a thread. Unfortunately we won't be able to use 4G uk networks with the new iPad. Can use HSPA+ though which will still be a big improvement on standard 3G I know 3 mobile has it. Heard O2 and t-mobile have it as well? Not sure about those 2 networks though.

 

[parallax33]

I know 3 mobile has it. Heard O2 and t-mobile have it as well? Not sure about those 2 networks though.

My advice is stay away from O2. Bunch of crooks... Three network is awesome

 

[Trepex]

It can't, it's hardware that's why theres two versions in the US.

EDIT #2: You're right. Things are different in Canada. As Wired suggests, two models for the US but in Canada it will work with either Rogers or Bell, as long as you have the right sim,

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/03/apple-new-ipad-1080p-tv/

Silly CDMA EV-DO!!!

 

[boy-better-know]

I hope 3 starts doing it too, and lets me use it on my existing contract.

 

[Lastof]

There are not two unique 4G versions in the US. There is a single 4G LTE version, and it works on the LTE bands in North America, but not elsewhere. You simply choose which provider's sim card you'd like to receive, but the hardware is no different.

EDIT: Although Wired suggests otherwise. Has this been mis-reported, or are there actually two different hardware versions in the US?
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/03/apple-new-ipad-1080p-tv/

There are two US versions, one for AT&T which supports 4G LTE at 700MHz and 2100 MHz, and one for Verizon that only supports 4G LTE at 700 MHz, but adds support for CDMA EV-DO Rev. A at 800 and 1900 MHz (Verizon's 3G).

Sources:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
http://www.apple.com/ipad/4g/

 

[profets]

There are two US versions, one for AT&T which supports 4G LTE at 700MHz and 2100 MHz, and one for Verizon that only supports 4G LTE at 700 MHz, but adds support for CDMA EV-DO Rev. A at 800 and 1900 MHz (Verizon's 3G).

Sources:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
http://www.apple.com/ipad/4g/

Just to clear that up (as Apple is incorrectly mentioning LTE on 2100).

The AT&T model has LTE on Bands 4 (AWS) and 17 (700 LSMH)
The Verizon model has LTE on Band 13 (700 USMH) as well as CDMA/EVDO

Lol, it's been discussed to death.

 

[iDrew87]

I am intending to use my 3rd gen iPad for a long term and of course I am a bit unhappy with the fact whenever 4G is introduced in the UK/Europe this tablet "4G" is gonna be useless then...

Of course I got this for the 3G but again said intend to own for LONG TERM

Still considering whether to take the tablet back to Apple and exchange for the 64gb WIFI only then upgrade whenever a correct compatible model is made.

 

[fat jez]

radios are tuned to work at specific frequencies. Unfortunately, the frequencies reserved for LTE in Europe are totally different to the ones in the US. It was the same with GSM - the UK used 900MHz (O2 and Vodafone) and 1800MHz (Orange and T-Mobile) whereas GSM in the US was at 1900MHz. So a European phone could not be used in the US (and vice versa) until tri-band phones became available. The iPad, sadly, is in the same boat - designed for use with LTE in the US, not in Europe.