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ModestMoo

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Hello,

Sorry if I'm repeating someone, but maybe you can tell me (screenshot of iPad) about 4G speeds in UK? Is there 4G actually in UK?
Preferably on Three (3) network please.

Thank you!
 
Hello,

Sorry if I'm repeating someone, but maybe you can tell me (screenshot of iPad) about 4G speeds in UK? Is there 4G actually in UK?
Preferably on Three (3) network please.

Thank you!

We don't have 4G in the UK but I have personally gotten 12mb/s download and 2mb/s upload on its HSPA+ network and they are now rolling out DC-HSPA+, which supports upto 42mb/s.
 
4G isn't available on any networks here in the UK. Further more the frequencies that are planned for future possible 4G support here are not supported by the iPad. The best we can get here in the UK are HSPA, HSPA+ and HSDPA/HSUPA. If you get any of those then you would see an H instead of 3G in the top left corner.
 
We don't have 4G in the UK but I have personally gotten 12mb/s download and 2mb/s upload on its HSPA+ network and they are now rolling out DC-HSPA+, which supports upto 42mb/s.

When they rolling it out?

I think I'd use my iPhone 4 tethering on-the-go which is like that (but in bad locations it's like D: 1,5 and U: 0,5:

AocUqdJCIAMgCk4.jpg:large


Is that would be enough for iPad browsing?
 
4G isn't available on any networks here in the UK. Further more the frequencies that are planned for future possible 4G support here are not supported by the iPad. The best we can get here in the UK are HSPA, HSPA+ and HSDPA/HSUPA. If you get any of those then you would see an H instead of 3G in the top left corner.
This was my understanding, although I have never had the H in the corner, speeds with Three are good though. Sitting at my cousins house in North London now and getting 8 down and 3.8 up. More than quick enough to burn through my data!
 
When they rolling it out?

I think I'd use my iPhone 4 tethering on-the-go which is like that (but in bad locations it's like D: 1,5 and U: 0,5:

AocUqdJCIAMgCk4.jpg:large


Is that would be enough for iPad browsing?

Many people have broadband connections slower than that and the new iPads have about double the speed of the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 doesn't even have HSPA+
 
Ofcom has changed the rules so the networks are slow to bid at the moment.

Basically to successfully roll it out whoever takes it on has to offer 98% coverage not the previous 95%. This is so that rural areas have a chance at decent broadband for once!

Looks like the first networks to do this will be O2 and Vodafone on a joint venture but we will see what happens over the next few months.
 
When they rolling it out?

I think I'd use my iPhone 4 tethering on-the-go which is like that (but in bad locations it's like D: 1,5 and U: 0,5:

AocUqdJCIAMgCk4.jpg:large


Is that would be enough for iPad browsing?

Everything Everywhere (TM & Orange) are planning to have HSPA+ 21Mb ready for the end of Q3 2012, and HSPA+ 42Mb ready for some time in Q4 2012.

As for 4G, it's pretty hazy at the moment but there are certain trials going on including EE's current 4G trial in Cornwall (until Summer 2012). Unfortunately the 800MHz frequency used for this is not compatible with iPad. Orange have also promised to have 4G networks ready by 2015.

OFCOM will be auctioning 2.6GHz and 800Mhz sometime this quarter I believe. If these are going to be used for 4G, then unfortunately the current iPads will not be able to utilise them

It is also questionable whether the proposed "4G" rollout will just be DC-HSPA/HSPA+ or actual LTE technology (which is being trialled by O2 currently in London, reaching speeds of around 170Mbps).
 
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Hope this is a fair assumption...

You should only need a max of 10mbit, this will allow full hd streaming for vod services like Netflix. Browsing won't be any faster and even music streaming should be almost instant.

4g for me wouldn't give much noticable difference over HSPA+ and I fear the ridiculous data caps would make the speed increase practically redundant!

Enjoy the HSPA improvements we might see in the coming year/s
 
Some useful info here...

3 said:
As most of you probably know by now, at Three we’re focused on giving our customers the best mobile internet experience we possibly can.

Since we launched the UK’s first solely 3G network back in 2003, we’ve continued to invest and improve the technology that powers our network to bring you the best data experience.

It was for that reason that last year we invested millions in upgrading our network to the next generation of 3G technology: *HSPA+.*HSPA+ currently runs on the 21Mbps technical standard, meaning people can now experience download speeds in excess of 10Mbps.

Now, once again, we are going to move the game on and bring another first to the UK market.

We’re now in the process of finalising our plans to roll out what’s being described in the USA* as 4G.

But let’s be absolutely clear – this isn’t 4G as in Long Term Evolution, or LTE as it’s also known.

Instead it’s the leading-edge version of HSPA+ 3G technology called DC-HSDPA (which stands for Dual Carrier High Speed Downlink Packet Access ), and it runs on the 42Mbps technical standard. So compared to standard 21Mbps HSPA+, this dual carrier technology offers customers twice the speed potential.

DC-HSDPA will deliver huge benefits for our customers. The obvious one is speed, with massive improvements in both download and upload speed. Because the technology uses dual carrier equipment – meaning it can latch onto two signals at the same time and transmit and receive double the data – it will also improve capacity across the network too.

Again, for our customers, this will mean more consistent speeds especially in busy areas and at peak times of the day. As our customers use more and more data, moving to DC-HSDPA will help us create the capacity to continue to offer a great service.

In fact we already have the technology up and running as a test along a small part of the M3 corridor and south west London.

The nationwide rollout is expected to commence later this summer.

As well as continuing the 42Mbps roll out, we’ll also be running our own Long Term Evolution (LTE) trial in the next few months to get ourselves prepared for this technology, when the spectrum needed to run it is made available.

The likelihood is that this leap is still more than a year away at the earliest. But in the meantime, we’ll continue our ongoing network improvement programme to ensure that whatever it is you want to do via the mobile internet, we are the network to be on.

*The 42Mbps Technical Standard has been described as 4G by T-Mobile in the USA: see here for further details:*http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/

**15/03/12 – We’ve edited this post since we published it initially to make sure that the terminology we use to describe our network is up to date and consistent across all our marketing.

http://blog.three.co.uk/2012/02/29/leading-edge-3g-service/
 
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