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4GB 'iPod Mini' and 15GB iPod

Originally posted by Count Blah
I bet you are a guy. Approx. 50% of the population is female, and at last time I checked, a lot of them do like the color pink.
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It's important to note that in many cases when multiple colors of a product are offered, like the fruit colored iMacs, retailers can get stuck with a large inventory of unpopular colors. In the case of the iMacs, the strawberry iMac was not well received and consequently many retailers got stuck with a surplus inventory of them.

So before you jump to some sexist conclusion...
 
I wish they'd left the option of buying a 10-gig iPod, though I suppose I see the logic in dropping it. If they had kept it, they'd have to drop the price on it, which would basically mean it would cost the same as the minis, which wouldn't exactly work out.
 
I've been waiting for an ipod forever an with the introduction of the minis, I'm gonna buy one even at the $250 price. For those that complain that $50 will get you 11 more gigs, fine spend the extra $50 and get the larger ipod. You'll be happy and that's all that really matters.

I'm speculating that it will be hard-drive based. If you look at the specs, the battery life is the same as the larger ipods. Flash based players consume WAY less electricity so if it was flash based, the battery life would be much longer (even though the mini battery is probably smaller).

Reasons why I'm buying the mini:

6.1008 vs 3.6 cubic inches - a 41% reduction in volume.

I'm asian and it's built into my genes that smaller = sexy when it comes to electronic gadgets😀

I'm a PC laptop user and a bundled USB 2.0 cable is great. No need to go buy a firewire pcmcia.

White ipod good, silver aluminum ipod even better.

The cheapest 512mb flash mp3 player was the iRiver 390T at bestbuy for $200 after rebates on Black Friday. I hate rebates, and for $50 more, I can get an ipod at 4G.

Educational discount, target sale, bestbuy sale, will make it cheaper than the $250 msrp.

I paid extra and got a BMW.

Again, if you're not happy with the new pricing, pay the $50 more for the 15G. No one is stopping you.
 
Re: NeatGekko scooped you all

Originally posted by SpamJunkie
I want to be the first to point out that NeatGekko scooped everyone on this. He had the size and the price correct.
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And claimed quite vehemently that it was Flash-based ... so maybe we'll let him by with just eating two fingers off his right hand ...
 
still no running, f consistent shock is detected once the buffer runs out it will stop playing, transfer speed is slower, card reader and mic are not supported.
 
Originally posted by hayesk
No offence, but you people who think it's overpriced are extremely short-sighted.

The mini comes with a dock, a case, armband, remote control - all things the 15GB doesn't have. So, no, spending $50 more won't get you the same thing with 11 more GBs.
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Oops - I was wrong - it doesn't come with all that - the keynote report I read was mistaken. Regardless, given the size, I don't think there's a lot of room to move with respect to price. Maybe $20 - $30.
 
Wait a second. There's yet another mp3 player out there that costs $249. How does the iPod mini compete with this?

At $249 there are already competing 4 gig and 15 gig players. Why couldn't Apple have leap-frogged the competition and made a cheaper player, even if it had less capacity? Remind me again which market the mini is supposed to compete with.
 
Well, if the mini-ipod really DOES use the Hitachi Microdrive, then I can understand the $250 price point.

The 4GB Hitachi drive sells for $500+ by itself.

So does this mean that Apple is losing $250 on each mini it sells?
 
Well I think i may consider selling my ten and getting a 15 gig iPod now. I have more music than i initially thought.
 
Originally posted by merge
I am disapointed with the price.. BUT..

The mini comes with a Dock, Belt clip, and an armband..
with an estimated value of $70.

You do not get any of that with the 15GB iPod.
So it is not really a $50 difference.. it is more like $120 if you wanted the extras.

They really should have offered a 2GB for $200.. or $159 without the extras.
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Dock and Arm Band are not included. They are extras.
 
Originally posted by hayesk
No offence, but you people who think it's overpriced are extremely short-sighted.

The mini comes with a dock, a case, armband, remote control - all things the 15GB doesn't have.
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No it does not.

http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

I guess I am one of those "short sighted" people who also sees it as being $50 too high. To me, there is a fundamental incongruency here in that Apple produces products and software "for the rest of us", yet at prices that really are unaffordable for most people.

I do trust however trust that this decision has undergone some pretty heavy analysis so as ensure it won't hurt sales of their existing line and yet be saleable itself. I think they will sell fairly well (ESPECIALLY the pink!), but if I were a gambler I would bet on them lowering the price somewhat in the months to come.
 
Europeans have to wait 'til April

It's a pity, that we have to wait until
April to buy one of the minis. My daughter likes the pink one.
 
This thing will probably sell just as well as the big iPod. Remember that the small size costs alot of money.
It costs exactly the same as the just released rio nitrus (which has the same capasity) but it's way cooler.

At 150 it would have taken the rest of the mp3player market tho...
 
For all you who think the new iPod mini is too expensive, just go hunt down the competition. Maybe then you'll understand the price point (even if it does seem confusing next to the low end iPod):

http://creativex.creative.com/products/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=3&idSubCategory=20

The closest thing Creative has sells for over $500. As for Rio:

http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/cat_list_Rio.asp?cat=53

1.5 Gb is the closest at $219. $30 difference.

Steve pointed it out very clearly. He's targeting the HIGH END FLASH PLAYER market. Not the dirt cheap market. And in the high end market, it's very competitively priced if you take a moment to look around.
 
It was supposed to be expensive!

I think the pricing was deliberate:

People attracted to the high-end flash market will look to the iPod Mini. Very few will actually buy this; instead they will then see that they get 11GB more for $50 more. Applying the same logic that convinced them to spend $50 more to get the iPod Mini, they will spend another $50 more to move to the iPod market.
 
Originally posted by Rex44

I do trust however trust that this decision has undergone some pretty heavy analysis so as ensure it won't hurt sales of their existing line and yet be saleable itself. I think they will sell fairly well (ESPECIALLY the pink!), but if I were a gambler I would bet on them lowering the price somewhat in the months to come.
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Agreed.

The price is set to cover the range of prospective buyers who may also, at some point, buy into an Apple computer.

Of course, the smallness of the new iPod will sell plenty.

Smaller is usually more expensive, too.

I like all the announcements today, I am a bit sorry to see so much moaning and whining on these boards......
 
Missed the market

Yeah Maybe Steve knows something I don't, but if I'm not spending 299 on a 15 gig iPod, I'm not spending 249 on a 4gig either.

Conversely, it looks like they are killing thier iPod-mini market by pricing it only $50 away from the real thing. with 11 gigs more.

I would probably go pick up a Rio Nitrus 1.5 now, but now I can't see spending 219 if the 4gig Nitris and the 4gig Ipod are only 30 more 🙁 I was really looking forward to a 2gig < $199 iPod.
 
still no running, f consistent shock is detected once the buffer runs out it will stop playing, transfer speed is slower, card reader and mic are not supported.
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Um, so in terms of functionality, does the mini offer any advantages other than being slightly smaller or are sales going to subsist on the coolness factor (which is fine, it just doesn't usually sustain a product to dominate a market, the way Jobs said he wants to do)?

Seems to me like they are using the successful niche strategy (i.e. I'm buying a BMW) while claiming to be shooting for the whole market. I guess its fine to go from the top-down and establish yourself in quality and slowly work down to a sub-200 level...I just think that point should be reached sooner rather than later (even if it is in 2GB form, which would be perfectly acceptable with the 4GB at $250)
 
Originally posted by iChan
i'm just annoyed about the fact that apple didn't announce anything that really set the world on fire... i was so psyched about this keynote, and turned out to be quite dull actually.
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Agreed.
I thought WAY too much time was spent on the iLife demos...and the longer it went on, the more it became clear that this Keynote wasn't really going to deliver the "just one more thing" wow factor.

(Apologies to those who feel the iPod mini was such an announcement...but I interpreted the overall crowd response in the Moscone Center to be one of vague disappointment, and I'm not the only one.)

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the "cool things we'll announce throughout the year" are.

Garage Band looks cool though. And 2 hours of DVD video with iDVD4? Not bad at all. I'll take it!
 
The price might not be as good as most had hoped, but Apple makes very sexy products and sometimes that is enough.
These will probably sell like hotcakes, based on their looks alone.
 
I've read through most of the pages, and such, but I haven't heard this mentioned. If you're prepared to order the iPod Mini now, you can get free engraving. It doesn't say anywhere how long that will last, though. At least this is the case through the Education Store (where it is, as mentioned before, $229).
 
New iPod options not available for mini.

$249 is too much for me. Looks like they want to sell more 15GB units at $299.

Also, if you look at the Apple store, those new iPod options like the voice recorder and media reader and such are NOT available for the mini iPod.

At $199 they'd get me sold.

At $149 they'd have the world sold.

At $99 they'd lose money on each unit but could make it up in volume.
 
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