4K for Designer

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Verdenshersker, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. Verdenshersker macrumors member

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    Hey everyone,

    I have looked through so many posts about 4K, but I haven't got the perfect answer yet.
    I am looking to upgrade my Monitor for my Mac Pro. I currently have a Crossover 290M (29 inch 21:9 Format)

    This is the list I have been looking at:

    4K Monitors (3840x2160)

    28 Inch Models:
    Price range: $450-825

    Lenovo Ll2821
    Lenovo ThinkVision Pro2840m
    Monoprice CrystalPro 4K
    Phillips 288P6L
    Crossover 284K UHD
    Planar IX2850
    AOC U2868PQU
    ViewSonic VX2880ml
    Acer B286HK
    Asus PB287Q
    Samsung U28D590D
    Dell P2815Q

    32 inch Models
    Price range: $1000-1100

    BenQ BL3201PH
    Acer B326HK

    As far as I can see, the 28 inch models are TN Panels and the 32 inch models are IPS.
    I’m a graphic designer, so I guess, I will have to go for an IPS.
    Stuff that are important to me:
    - More than 1 connection (HDMI for PS4 + DP for 4K via Mac Pro)
    - Pivot/Rotation Function
    - 60 Hz Refresh Rate
    - Speakers (Even though they aren’t the best - just for the PS4 via HDMI)
    - Height Adjustable (Not super important, but nice to have)
    - USB, preferable USB3 (Not super important, but nice to have)
    - Nice design (Not super important, but nice to look at)

    Anyone with suggestions that have been in the same boat as me?

    So I get something around now, or any rumors about a new wonder coming about Q1 2015? I can wait a few more months if needed, although I would love to get some more real estate to work with.

    Thank you guys in advance and happy holidays :apple:
     
  2. N19h7m4r3 macrumors 65816

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    Do have a look at this one, unlike the previous IPS displays, this is a single Tiled one, and already comes with a mini-display port connector which makes it easier for Macs.

     
  3. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    30 'hurts'
     
  4. Verdenshersker thread starter macrumors member

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  5. AppleDroid macrumors 6502a

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    Stay away from the cheap 4K monitors in the 28in range! They are all crappy TN displays and if you care at all about color/uniformity and banding issues (gradient banding is terrible with TN monitors) pick up something more high end or stick with a non-4k IPS display.
     
  6. Verdenshersker thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah my guts say don't pick up the 28 inch TN, but what about the 31.5 inch? They are IPS and less than $1k
     
  7. AppleDroid macrumors 6502a

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    I haven't played around with the two you listed but customer reviews seem favorable to middle-of-the-road. I really wish more sites had in-depth 4K round ups for non-TN versions.

    I just picked up the new LG Cinema 4K display (By accident here's my thread where I'll post updates and impressions: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1816805) which is SST but Apple only supports 50hz right now which may be an issue for me. Luckily I can return it within 30 days but I'll post impressions sometime soon.

    Also here's Apple's page on which 4k displays they currently support and what Hz they run at: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202856

    Another viable option if you can live with 27in would be the new Dell that another user started a thread on here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20512559#post20512559
     
  8. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    Apple has no shame in their FAQs. In the first section they leave out the 2012 Macs that also support 4K at 30hz giving owners the impression they have to buy new computers and then in the last section they claim Windows on Boot Camp uses the same rules as OS X for 4K support.
     
  9. AppleDroid macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah but I'm assuming whatever works with my nMP will work with an older model with a better gfx card.
     
  10. N19h7m4r3 macrumors 65816

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    It's 60 hz, where did you get 30 from? Even in the video the state 60hz.

    Straight from the first line on the Datasheet at Acer on the monitor.

    "IPS panel - LED backlit screen - 3840 x 2160 resolution - 60Hz refresh rate - 6 ms response time"
    http://www.acer.ie/ac/en/GB/content/professional-model-datasheet/UM.JB6EE.005
     
  11. EdDuPlessis, Dec 23, 2014
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    EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    At 2:50 he says 30hz and then later he says 60hz, maybe he was only referring to the dual link DVI input. But a quick Googling reveals it is an SST monitor which will default to 30hz in OS X according to the Apple support document above. Someone will have to test to see if this can be changed.
     
  12. teeck2000, Dec 24, 2014
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    SST works at 60hz in OS X at 3840x2160, at least it did with the samsung 32" 4k and the LG 31MU39 4k. It even worked for me at 60hz in 10.8 with a GTX 680. I think this acer should be fine.

    The issue at that point is the AG coating which was terrible on the Samsung. The LG is great but you need to buy a better cable and 17:1 aspect is strange. The acer I don't know how bad the ag coating is gonna be.
     
  13. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    Cool but get it confirmed or tested somehow before parting with your time and money. Otherwise the quality of the video looks good.
     
  14. N19h7m4r3 macrumors 65816

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    Linus states in the video his only issue with his Mac ( 5K Retina ) is a sleep on wake issue with the monitor.

    He clearly states the Dual link DVI is only 30hz, as it's only technical supports 2560x1600 60hz as a max.
     
  15. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    Yes I just googled it and someone on Acer's forum says the monitor doesn't wake from sleep on his 6,1 no matter which port he tried, and same problem with his iMac using Win 7



    http://community.acer.com/t5/Monito...ppot-Mac-It-does-not-wake-up-from/td-p/318406
     
  16. KBS756 macrumors 6502a

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    Anyone have any updates on this monitor considering getting this and a nMP
     
  17. Verdenshersker thread starter macrumors member

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    Just a question, why would you need the nMP with the machine you have there?
     
  18. KBS756 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm keeping it just delegating it to render slave jobs. My family does jewelry I calculated it would be rendering 16-18 hrs of the day rendering items designed in our over seas office.

    Since a nMP has slightly better performance and is much quieter I am leaning towards it rather than another cMP ... and I just don't wanna mess with a Windows build even though I know I can build one cheaper.
     

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