4S Data Question

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  1. venomgt95 macrumors 6502

    venomgt95

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    Okay, so my friend, my ex girlfriend, and I all have iPhone 4S's. Mine and my friend's phones are running iOS 9, while my ex is still running iOS 7. Now, they both have Verizon, and I have AT&T, but the difference between mine and theirs is, I have 4G, (I know not LTE, only HSPA) whereas they only have 3G. Why is that? I know Verizon has 4G
     
  2. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Verizon has 3G which is EVDO and it has LTE (which is considered 4G as far as the naming standard goes, but not how it's displayed on iPhones as 4G is used for something else there, as you mentioned, and LTE simply shows up as LTE, which the 4s doesn't support).
     
  3. nordique macrumors 6502a

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    Can't comment on US carriers but I know in Europe some carriers identified HSPA+ as 4G, hence why "4G" would show in the upper left corner, and as such also distinguished 4G from LTE
     
  4. scaredpoet macrumors 604

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    It's marketing, really.

    Long ago, when LTE was just starting to get rolled out, T-Mobile wasn't yet in a position to launch an LTE network. They were, however, putting the finishing touches on a pretty fast 3G HSPA+ network. So they decided to fudge the terminology and declare that their 3G HSPA+ network was really "4G," even though it didn't meet the official standard for 4G (but sort-of came close, speed-wise).

    Well, AT&T got their panties in a huff over that one, so not to be outdone, they too decided to start calling their HSPA+ network "4G". Both carriers modified their Android firmware distributions to label their HSPA networks with the 4G logo.

    All of this marketing pressure influenced Apple, who also hadn't (yet) launched an LTE-capable iPhone. So what did they do? You guessed it... Changed the status flag for HSPA+ networks to read "4G" instead of the 3G it initially was. All that happened was the status bar image was changed when Apple rolled out iOS 5.1 back in 2012... Instantly, iPhone 4S users on AT&T were "upgraded" to "4G," without anything else actually changing.

    Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401422,00.asp

    Some of us knew exactly what was going on, and called it "FauxG."

    Ultimately, the standards body that sets the rules for what 4G is and isn't capitulated, as more carriers and phone vendors started doing the same thing, and the term "4G" was relegated to be a meaningless marketing term.

    Verizon and Sprint, sadly (for them), could not really justify jumping on the FauxG bandwagon. They never had HSPA+ on their networks. And the CDMA networks they had deployed were too slow and too feature-limited to justifiably be called 4G.
     
  5. bhayes444 macrumors 6502a

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    ^Exactly what happened. I remember when that software update came out too. People were claiming that Apple had "updated" their iPhones to 4G and they were even faster now. All this, because the text read a 4 instead of a 3; even though the network type was still HSPA
     
  6. venomgt95 thread starter macrumors 6502

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