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4th Generation iPods?
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dilemna dilemna - i'n in the UK, but a friend is off to the US in a few weeks an is going to bring me back an iPod - even after paying the duty, it should work out about £50 cheaper.
only one thing for it - they'll have to announce them on wednesday!
Iain
only one thing for it - they'll have to announce them on wednesday!
Iain
Make your friend take it out of the box... Used product=duty free.duklaprague said:
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I have a 15GB iPod, and would really welcome a 4th Gen with an Aluminum casing. The iPod mini has such a nice and more stable feel to it. I could care less about the color screen and the video out, I will take the aluminum and maybe even that cool click wheel.
If Apple ever decides to add more bells and whistles post release, like video and what not, the hard drives are definitely going to have to go up in size. I'm at over 30 gigs of music as it is, to try to add video with sound files which is even conceivably larger per file for size, I'm thinking they're going to have to go 60 GB and be pushing 100 in a couple years, as crazy as that sounds.
singletrack said:
singletrack said:
I couldnt agree more with that. I went on vacation overseas and took my 5mp Canon with me. I filled both CF cards before the trip was over (shooting in RAW). Id love an ipod but I dont want to spend/fiddle with an add on adaptor and a powerbook is too big to fit into the hotel safe. I am about to spend $170 on a 20G pocketdrive but I would gladly spend an extra $100 on another device if it meant I could listen to music and brush up on my Spanish on the plane ride over.
Every pro shooter in the world is proofing images on a screen the size of a single 35mm screen. The current ipod monochrome screen is what, twice that size? Even when I shoot large or medium format, I use my point and shoot in place of a Poloroid just to see if its worth making an exposure. The consumer and prosumer market for photography is hugely huge and Apple would be well rewarded if they added a direct to camera connect.
ebunton said:
Why a color screen? Do you want to see the menu selections in color? I could see if the iPod became a photo viewer or video player, but otherwise, what's the point of color when you're just looking at words? Or am I missing something here?
Farben
well of course it's for looks initially but then it opens up the possibility of doing colour-dependent functions such as viewing photos, or introducing some value-added function to the ipod.
it's like a cellphone... initially there were no cameras on the cellphone with colour screens right? so what was the point of making cell phones with colour screens? obviously it added some value to the cellphone... now it's more personalisable due to the colour display... more desirable...etc
perhaps the next ipod can be personalised*...
* by that i mean, not the silly laser engraving (largely only applicable to gifts), but wallpapers and other similar things...
~Shard~ said:
well of course it's for looks initially but then it opens up the possibility of doing colour-dependent functions such as viewing photos, or introducing some value-added function to the ipod.
it's like a cellphone... initially there were no cameras on the cellphone with colour screens right? so what was the point of making cell phones with colour screens? obviously it added some value to the cellphone... now it's more personalisable due to the colour display... more desirable...etc
perhaps the next ipod can be personalised*...
* by that i mean, not the silly laser engraving (largely only applicable to gifts), but wallpapers and other similar things...
USB all the way!
I couldnt care less about fm receivers (though an integrated iTrip would be sweet) I would much prefer the new gadget to be USB connectivity to, say, digital cameras, or to other usb storage devices, or (GASP) other iPods. Wouldn't it be sweet to be able to transfer stuff from one ipod to another?
I couldnt care less about fm receivers (though an integrated iTrip would be sweet) I would much prefer the new gadget to be USB connectivity to, say, digital cameras, or to other usb storage devices, or (GASP) other iPods. Wouldn't it be sweet to be able to transfer stuff from one ipod to another?
JonMaker said:
It would be sweet, if it was legal....Brings you to the same situation happening now with the downloading of pirated music.....
I don't think Apple wants to get involved with that, since they do have 70% of the LEGAL marketshare...
Just my 2 cents...
I don't think Ipod G4 and G3 would be much different, because if you look at G3 and G2, they didn't really change much.
ebunton said:
Yes, it would definitely be future-proofing the iPod and preparing it for future incarnations, but I don't know if Apple would do this without making full use of the clolor screen from the get-go. Otherwise many people would simply complain about the extra drain on battery which would inevitably happen. The iPod is not like a cell phone, which goes through many model revisions and updates in a year.
But all that being said, a color iPod would defintely be cool. Practical right now? I'm not sure. But cool? Yes - just cuz. 😉 😎
4G Ipod and Set Top Box?
All this talk of colour screens and video out seems to miss the point.
Jobs said himself that "...it's the music, stupid".
A 'killer app' enhancement to the iPod is not going to be an Aqua-style interface or new internal video hardware, I think it's going to be adding Wi-Fi to the little fella. Like a digital iTrip with decent bandwidth.
Plus...
An air base station with Audio/Video out, that sits next to your TV, DVD, Amp and VHS machine.
The graphics engine (hardware and software) for running iPhoto, Keynote, iTunes and iMovie, could be incorporated into a small, inexpansive, albeit not portable, device. The iPod then acts as a wireless 'feeder' device, streaming music and images to the engine, for procesing, playback and display on standard home equipment.
Think about it. All technologies, hardware and software, necessary for such a thing are already under Apple's roof (Rendezvous, iSync).
This would enable the iPod to fundementally remain the music player Jobs wants it to remain, while expanding on its 'Pod' capabilities (40 Gigs is 10 times bigger than the 'sweet spot' mentioned in another thread...HUGE), and entrenching Apple as the digital lifestyle 'hub' company.
Whadaya think?
All this talk of colour screens and video out seems to miss the point.
Jobs said himself that "...it's the music, stupid".
A 'killer app' enhancement to the iPod is not going to be an Aqua-style interface or new internal video hardware, I think it's going to be adding Wi-Fi to the little fella. Like a digital iTrip with decent bandwidth.
Plus...
An air base station with Audio/Video out, that sits next to your TV, DVD, Amp and VHS machine.
The graphics engine (hardware and software) for running iPhoto, Keynote, iTunes and iMovie, could be incorporated into a small, inexpansive, albeit not portable, device. The iPod then acts as a wireless 'feeder' device, streaming music and images to the engine, for procesing, playback and display on standard home equipment.
Think about it. All technologies, hardware and software, necessary for such a thing are already under Apple's roof (Rendezvous, iSync).
This would enable the iPod to fundementally remain the music player Jobs wants it to remain, while expanding on its 'Pod' capabilities (40 Gigs is 10 times bigger than the 'sweet spot' mentioned in another thread...HUGE), and entrenching Apple as the digital lifestyle 'hub' company.
Whadaya think?
From what I'm hearing, Apple has the iPod focused on music and it's related activities. And they are preping a prototype device that'll the rival to all those media devices M$ and it's loyalists are releasing.
*HINT* From what I hear, the G3 ain't dead. 🙂
*HINT* From what I hear, the G3 ain't dead. 🙂
one color
serious user interface designers do, and anyone else who is anti-hype. the people that design cell phone interfaces go crazy with color and graphics, and it ends up looking like a TV commercial instead of a communications device. bigger screen? they use bigger fonts, rendering the higher resolution pointless. color capabilities? they use it to make everything cluttered and confusing with falling leaves and dolphin screensavers, instead of using color for its proper UI purpose - adding emphasis and differentiating one thing from another. hi-fi audio chip? they use it to make a ringtone that sounds like a chicken. lo-fi means less intrusive advertising and cheesy visual gimmicks - a text-based Internet was free of Flash ads, after all. i'll take my monochrome old-school Nokia over your Samsung media hell any day.
i'm not sure that a color screen would add much value to the iPod - it is a simple, primarily text-based interface that does really well for organizing text notes and showing music tag information. i would really like an iPod with digital camera connectivity, but it's not necessary to play back color photos on the screen.
keep in mind that other MP3 players have had color screens for years, and their battery life is upwards of 15 hours. granted, the players are much larger and use different batteries, but the impact of a color screen on battery life is overstated.
ebunton said:
serious user interface designers do, and anyone else who is anti-hype. the people that design cell phone interfaces go crazy with color and graphics, and it ends up looking like a TV commercial instead of a communications device. bigger screen? they use bigger fonts, rendering the higher resolution pointless. color capabilities? they use it to make everything cluttered and confusing with falling leaves and dolphin screensavers, instead of using color for its proper UI purpose - adding emphasis and differentiating one thing from another. hi-fi audio chip? they use it to make a ringtone that sounds like a chicken. lo-fi means less intrusive advertising and cheesy visual gimmicks - a text-based Internet was free of Flash ads, after all. i'll take my monochrome old-school Nokia over your Samsung media hell any day.
i'm not sure that a color screen would add much value to the iPod - it is a simple, primarily text-based interface that does really well for organizing text notes and showing music tag information. i would really like an iPod with digital camera connectivity, but it's not necessary to play back color photos on the screen.
keep in mind that other MP3 players have had color screens for years, and their battery life is upwards of 15 hours. granted, the players are much larger and use different batteries, but the impact of a color screen on battery life is overstated.
Actual useful things for color on an iPod:
-Preserving color coding in iCal calendars.
-Color coding songs based on - ratings, play count, last time played, etc.
-Albumn art (quasi-useful)
-limited iPhoto syncing "Hey dude, wanna see a picture of my girlfried/new house/puppy/Porsche"
-Maybe pictures in your address book?
others?
-Preserving color coding in iCal calendars.
-Color coding songs based on - ratings, play count, last time played, etc.
-Albumn art (quasi-useful)
-limited iPhoto syncing "Hey dude, wanna see a picture of my girlfried/new house/puppy/Porsche"
-Maybe pictures in your address book?
others?
new ipods?
If apple is deciding to release 4G ipods with a 2" color LCD screen . . . . these devices are going to inhale battery juice . . . i just returned a 15GB 3G Ipod becuase of the lack of batter power it has. Apple says it is supposed to last for about 8 hours, whenI bought my Ipod, i went on a 40 mile bike ride in NYC, "Bike NY", the battery went on me after about 5 hours, and apple told me that it was good use out of my battery, i figured that it would be worth while to use my 2nd Gen 5GB Ipod with a lot more battery life, it has less space with more battery left . . i figured i would wait and see if the 4g ipods would be better or go by a 2nd Gen 10 or 20 gb ipod with longer battery life
apple needs to figure something out, keep it simple, why would you want to carry picutres on your ipod, we have picture cell phones, that is enouph,
apple should keep its ipod stricty for music i think it would be best, maybe a little bit thicker for longer battery life? what do you think? any reccomendations
PS i thought about getting the belkin adapter that uses AA batterys, but i bought the 3G ipod becuase of its size and, the adapter adds a lot on 2 it
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Jeff Bistrong
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www.crazycrash.com
jeffb@crazycrash.com 😡 😡
If apple is deciding to release 4G ipods with a 2" color LCD screen . . . . these devices are going to inhale battery juice . . . i just returned a 15GB 3G Ipod becuase of the lack of batter power it has. Apple says it is supposed to last for about 8 hours, whenI bought my Ipod, i went on a 40 mile bike ride in NYC, "Bike NY", the battery went on me after about 5 hours, and apple told me that it was good use out of my battery, i figured that it would be worth while to use my 2nd Gen 5GB Ipod with a lot more battery life, it has less space with more battery left . . i figured i would wait and see if the 4g ipods would be better or go by a 2nd Gen 10 or 20 gb ipod with longer battery life
apple needs to figure something out, keep it simple, why would you want to carry picutres on your ipod, we have picture cell phones, that is enouph,
apple should keep its ipod stricty for music i think it would be best, maybe a little bit thicker for longer battery life? what do you think? any reccomendations
PS i thought about getting the belkin adapter that uses AA batterys, but i bought the 3G ipod becuase of its size and, the adapter adds a lot on 2 it
--
Jeff Bistrong
President/Co-Founder
Crashwinoverride Productions
www.crazycrash.com
jeffb@crazycrash.com 😡 😡
As for the color screens, they should use OLEDs. Half the power required for a better image. They are cheaper to make than LCDs, and all sorts of electronics manufacturers are starting to release products with them. It would only make sense for Apple to lead the way into incorporating them into their portable music players. Plus, they can play video with OLEDs.
Whatever the case, I will be purchasing the next generation of the iPods. It will be worth the wait, the current one is great, but it just does not have the greatest battery life. I sure hope Apple has that at the top of their list for improvements on generation four.
Whatever the case, I will be purchasing the next generation of the iPods. It will be worth the wait, the current one is great, but it just does not have the greatest battery life. I sure hope Apple has that at the top of their list for improvements on generation four.