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Looks drop dead ugly. What's going on with the design team? We need something that looks slick and attractive if you want me to pay exorbitant prices for this device. Otherwise, I am on the LOOOONG wait chill out until we see Dynamic Island vanish and we have Face ID and everything under the screen.
 
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So I held on to my 14PM to miss out on titanium completely just to pay more for aluminum. Cool. Gonna just find someone dumb enough to sell their mint 16PM and avoid the depreciation I guess.
 
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4. Part-Glass, Part-Aluminum Frame
No More Titanium
Apple has gradually shifted the materials used in its premium iPhones – from aluminum to stainless steel, and more recently, titanium. But with the upcoming iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max, the company is expected to return to aluminum for the frame. This move is reportedly driven by environmental goals, as aluminum has a lower carbon footprint compared to titanium, making it a more sustainable choice.
Yes for the environment, uh huh...
 
People can complain all they want, but I'll take camera upgrades any time. Capturing pictures and videos you'll look back on forever, I want the best quality possible. I don't care if that's all they add each year at this point.
 
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Honestly, I don't think many people would be too upset if Apple took a year off of iOS software and iPhone hardware releases. They really seem to have run out of good ideas and are just moving things around and changing them for the sake of having new things to sell.
 
People can complain all they want, but I'll take camera upgrades any time. Capturing pictures and videos you'll look back on forever, I want the best quality possible. I don't care if that's all they add each year at this point.

I defy you to tell the difference between a photo taken on an iPhone 11 Pro and an iPhone 16 Pro on Instagram. You'd have to print it to at least 8x10 to even begin to see the difference.

Besides if you truly want the best photo quality possible, you'd use a MILC or something - not an iPhone. And even if you wanted an all-in-one device, the iPhone doesn't even take the best photos - you'd want a Pixel.
 
Too bad. The titanium frame is the best feature of iPhone 16 Pro. It made the phone so light. It was the reason I preferred the Max version.
Hahaha. Yea right. There’s probably some people who don’t know that the frame is mostly aluminum on the Ti ones and that aluminum is lighter that titanium.
 
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I defy you to tell the difference between a photo taken on an iPhone 11 Pro and an iPhone 16 Pro on Instagram. You'd have to print it to at least 8x10 to even begin to see the difference.

Besides if you truly want the best photo quality possible, you'd use a MILC or something - not an iPhone. And even if you wanted an all-in-one device, the iPhone doesn't even take the best photos - you'd want a Pixel.
iPhone vs Samsung/Google in photos is pretty even. Anytime I see side by samples of each (blind comparisons) it's usually 50/50 on what I choose. However, videos aren't even close. The iPhone wins by miles.

Also, I'm not looking at my photos on Instagram. I'm looking in my library, and photos on the 11 vs 16 series aren't close to the same when looking at RAW photos in full quality.
 
So nothing compelling or wow

Apple should only release a new model, when the features are compelling, or there is a significant change in design. Small changes... iPhone Pro 16, iPhone Pro 16.1, iPhone Pro 16.2 etc.. Only a major upgrade should be iPhone Pro 17...
 
You forgot: Now with 43% more tariff!

All Jokes aside, you did not mention the RAM 8GB -> 12 GB (At least on pro max)
 
Some do care a great deal about the camera specs. But how many iPhone buyers truly care about advanced camera features?

Really, how many bother to share a photo they took with the phone outside of sharing a scaled down export to social media, or physically showing it to someone on the phone screen itself or a tablet screen? Some may AirPlay a video to their TV, but that is about the extent of it.
You really think that people don't text photos to their friends/partners?
The number of photographers with the desire, knowledge, and tools to leverage the most advanced features of a phone camera as part of an actual workflow is tiny in the context of billions of phone owners. Same goes for pro videographers.
I'm a hobbiest photographer with real cameras and I care about having as nice a camera as possible.
I think if Apple was to truly segment their phones along camera capability lines, we would see how unimportant the camera really is. If Apple had (a) a lower spec model, (b) a mid spec model with a run-of-the-mill camera but better screen, battery, and processing specs, and (c) a “Pro” model that was basically like the mid spec but with the best whiz-bang camera tech and more storage, very few “Pro” models would actually sell. We will never find out because it is far more profitable to convince everyone they need the camera updates.
They already do that. The Pro phones have better cameras than the regular phones, and the regular phones have better cameras than the new E.
 
Those listed features for me are meh, most likely my 13PM will serve me another year.
Question remains about the modem, not that that would be a criteria for me, still.
I will actually see what Apple actually announced and then make decisions…

Oh. And one thing to add: bring a 4th camera, 10x focal length minimum
 
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Switching from Titanium back to Aluminium seems like a backwards step to a less premium/pro material.
What makes titanium more premium/pro than aluminum? Strength? Then titanium was a step down from stainless steel. Price? Then we should want gold even though it’s less durable.
“Premium/pro” is an odd choice of language here though. In functional products (ie. not just straight up jewelry), the choice of metal comes down to functional advantage first and foremost. And with Apple’s pocket computers, lower weight and higher thermal conductivity is crucially needed, more than higher strength. Moving away from aluminum in the first place was an overall functional disadvantage.
 
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You really think that people don't text photos to their friends/partners?
Of course they do. And how many of the recipients are doing anything other than looking at it on the small screen of the device they received it on?

I'm a hobbiest photographer with real cameras and I care about having as nice a camera as possible.
Yes, I said as much in the very first sentence of my post. Some people do care, and that is fine. I’m suggesting the vast majority don’t care or use it beyond casual snapshots enough to even know if they are getting any benefit from the camera on an iPhone 16 (for example) over a 5 year old iPhone.

They already do that. The Pro phones have better cameras than the regular phones, and the regular phones have better cameras than the new E.
Not really, they are not separated strictly by camera capabilities. The Pro models have other desirable features aside from better cameras. Apple makes sure that if you want any of those features, you have to step up, and many do so for those features whether they care about the camera or not.
 
Our most advanced iPhone in the history of iPhone! Only 3200$!
You can have the most innovative and advanced iPhone not for $3,200 but 4,999 thanks to the new and inventive and exciting Trump appreciation tax. Thank you all for coming Tim Cook signing off.
 
I won't buy one unless it also does the gardening, and the odd job around the house. Wait, that's a future product.
 
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