5-Fold Increase in Video Encoding with OpenCL-like Technology

[SydneyDev]

That doesn't sound very clean - that will force Apple and OEMs to maintain both 32-bit and 64-bit drivers, even for x64.

True, but they probably would have maintained the 32-bit drivers anyway, for 10.5 users. In the near term at least.

If it was me, I would have left i386 users high and dry, but the powers that be seem to have decided no. Maybe it is not about a few Yonah machines, but about some future mobile product that will use an i386 architecture.

Do the 10.6 betas have 32-bit applications?

I have heard that they do. i386 and x86_64 architectures inside every app bundle, PPC deleted from most but not all.

"Gung ho" sounds more innovative to me !

It's funny because MS have always made backwards compatibility a prime concern and Apple not so much. This is one example of the opposite. Not enough to form a trend, but still interesting. Apple were recently pretty ruthless with their switch to DisplayPort so maybe they still have the killer instinct.

 

[AidenShaw]

It's funny because MS have always made backwards compatibility a prime concern and Apple not so much. This is one example of the opposite. Not enough to form a trend, but still interesting. Apple were recently pretty ruthless with their switch to DisplayPort so maybe they still have the killer instinct.

If you want better compatibility you use the x86 kit. For better performance, use x64.

Microsoft have announced that Windows 7 is the last 32-bit OS in the Windows line.

Windows 7 Server (AKA Windows Server 2008 R2) is 64-bit only (x64 and Itanium).

 

[Victor Odin]

Does this mean that Mac users should opt for Nvidia cards over ATI cards ... even though the ATI cards are faster in games, etc?

Will Snow Leopard by more suited to Nvidia as a whole than ATI?

 

[DoFoT9]

Does this mean that Mac users should opt for Nvidia cards over ATI cards ... even though the ATI cards are faster in games, etc?

Will Snow Leopard by more suited to Nvidia as a whole than ATI?

hmm there is no real answer to that. the support for both cards may seem one sided (i.e. NVIDIA cards are basically offered in all macs as opposed to ATi cards which are only custom upgrades) but i think that behind the scenes apple would be attempting to support both as equally as possible.

 

[chewietobbacca]

CUDA is just another layer - OpenCL is across all GPU's

 

[DoFoT9]

CUDA is just another layer - OpenCL is across all GPU's

you stalking me lol? im still replying to the other thread :-S

 

[AidenShaw]

Dell offers BTO for Tesla™

I was just configuring a Dell T7500, and I noticed that there's a BTO option for a 4 GiB Tesla™ GPU co-processor card....

GPU Computing

NVIDIA® Tesla™ C1060 Computing Processor

• None [subtract $1,699]
• NVIDIA® Tesla™ C1060 Computing Processor [Included in Price]

Hmm, I wonder how a 248-core Dell Xeon runs!

 

[AidenShaw]

I was just configuring a Dell T7500, and I noticed that there's a BTO option for a 4 GiB Tesla™ GPU co-processor card....

Tom's has a review of the C1060 - 933 GFLOPS...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Tesla-C1060-S1070,5672.html

 

[MrCheeto]

...Snow Leopard has been out for eight months...are there any OpenCL accelerated apps out yet that prove to be any different than pure CPU processing?!

Man, the world of computing today sucks. Back in the day the G3 and G4 were ripping it up. Then the G5 blew everybody away. Now...the raw power is increasing one step at a time and NOBODY is taking full advantage of it except for the million dollar apps used to...design more CPU's!!!

Crap, I'm angry.

 

[VoR]

...Snow Leopard has been out for eight months...are there any OpenCL accelerated apps out yet that prove to be any different than pure CPU processing?!

Man, the world of computing today sucks. Back in the day the G3 and G4 were ripping it up. Then the G5 blew everybody away. Now...the raw power is increasing one step at a time and NOBODY is taking full advantage of it except for the million dollar apps used to...design more CPU's!!!

Crap, I'm angry.

Don't know about opencl, but I love cuda and vdpau

Being able to play 40mbit+ h264 on a puny atom cpu, cheapest low end video card on windows/*nix with <5% cpu usage is great.

 

[Topper]

...Snow Leopard has been out for eight months...are there any OpenCL accelerated apps out yet that prove to be any different than pure CPU processing?!

Man, the world of computing today sucks. Back in the day the G3 and G4 were ripping it up. Then the G5 blew everybody away. Now...the raw power is increasing one step at a time and NOBODY is taking full advantage of it except for the million dollar apps used to...design more CPU's!!!

Crap, I'm angry.

I'm with you.
There are very few 64-bit applications that have come out since SL.
I don't know of any OpenCL or Grand Central Dispatch software.
Everywhere I look, they don't say days, weeks, or months even, they measure the launch time in years.

The only application I absolutely wanted in 64-bit was/is QuickTime X Pro.
I hear these absurd answers about how bloated QT code is and how hard it is to rewrite QTX Pro; therefore, it will be a long time before I see QTX Pro.
An Ars Technica article says, "And surely by Mac OS X 10.8, QuickTime X will have complete video editing support."

So, I've got a powerful Mac Pro that isn't even close to being used to it's fullest potential.
But don't worry, in 4 to 5 years we'll see applications coded for 64-bit and OpenCL and Grand Central Dispatch.
.

 

[DoFoT9]

...Snow Leopard has been out for eight months...are there any OpenCL accelerated apps out yet that prove to be any different than pure CPU processing?!

Man, the world of computing today sucks. Back in the day the G3 and G4 were ripping it up. Then the G5 blew everybody away. Now...the raw power is increasing one step at a time and NOBODY is taking full advantage of it except for the million dollar apps used to...design more CPU's!!!

Crap, I'm angry.

hmmmm. apart from QTx i cant really think of anything that can utilise the GPUs!

either people are slack, or its REALLY hard to code the programs

 

[MrCheeto]

OH, Quicktime X's performance boost is monstrous! I mean, it took me six minutes to encode an iPhone video to protected MPEG4 in Handbrake, but with Quicktime X that number was a mere five and a half minutes -.-'

This is crap, developers are slack.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Tom's has a review of the C1060 - 933 GFLOPS...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Tesla-C1060-S1070,5672.html

I know a student using a GPU supercomputer for his Doctorate. Except he's using 3 5870s sintead of the Teslas. I would imagine if youre really hardcore youd have 3 teslas in Tri SLI and one Quadro for the 3D rendering of simulations. But it might be easier and cheaper and probably just as powerful to use normal cards. Considering ATis and nVidias cards are measured in terraflops of power.

Don't ask me why he isnt using the University's "Symphony" Cluster.

 

[DoFoT9]

OH, Quicktime X's performance boost is monstrous! I mean, it took me six minutes to encode an iPhone video to protected MPEG4 in Handbrake, but with Quicktime X that number was a mere five and a half minutes -.-'

This is crap, developers are slack.

oh lol... i thought you were serious!

 

[MrCheeto]

I AM serious!

See this? This is my serious face!

 

[DoFoT9]

Wirelessly posted (nokia e63: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaE63-1/100.21.110; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413)

I AM serious!

See this? This is my serious face!

lol very nice

Apple, what are you doing?!

 

[Eidorian]

Everywhere I look, they don't say days, weeks, or months even, they measure the launch time in years.

I remember when Tiger came out.

Apple makes a nice dog and pony show on stage or when a new version of OS X comes out but the reality is much more snail paced.