Nanotape is available and not even expensive.
Sufficiently able to prevent movement that my front door mat has been held in position for many months with four tiny bits.
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5 Reasons to Get Excited About the New Mac Mini
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Sufficiently able to prevent movement that my front door mat has been held in position for many months with four tiny bits.
I'll be waiting for the M4 Mac Studio release then take a trip to my local Apple store then run some benchmarks on both the M4 Mac Mini and the M4 Mac Studio then see which one throttles the most (lol) it'll probably be the Mini then again we'll see if Apple decides to include real cooling like an actual fan inside it. It's really sad the direction Apple is taking with removing USB-A seeing as it's still widely used along with this Mini BS..., guess I'm going to have to invest more money towards another USB-C hub if I even bother with the M4 Mac Mini.....
Who decided that Mac Mini is a desktop computer?
Some use it as a server - in my case, I’d use it as a portable music server, and the smaller size would be great for me. Some would strap it to the back of a TV, or a monitor (I’ve seen people specifically wish for that).
Other than that, calling this an iPad without a screen is ridiculous. Does it run iPad OS? No. Many people are very happy with their Apple Silicon MacBook Pro’s, and this is closer to that without a screen, than an iPad. A 16GB M4 Mac Mini is a serious computer.
I agree, it's why I've kept that keyboard! However, with USB, C is more advanced than A, full stop. Apple is designing a simple desktop machine that they want to keep as simple as possible, hence, one type of modern port.
I have an HP work laptop that plugs into a little docking station. The station is an absolute mess of I/O - USB A, C, HDMI, DisplayPort, and it's just that, a mess. There's no need for a Mini to be similar.
I think the bigger question is if the new Mac Mini will have an ethernet port or not...
I bought a M2 Max Mac Studio with 64GB and a 1TB SSD last Christmas. I can’t imagine trading it in for an M4 machine but I’d still like to see this comparison. But I’m thinking I won‘t buy again until the next round for the Mini or Studio - M5, M6 or whatever.
Like I said .. you'll want that new Belkin Weighted Dock, both for the weight of it and to get the USB-A ports back
Apple cuts their own costs, increases margins and then the rest of us have to spend even more money to make their products usable again.
The Tim Cook playbook
And the USB C ports will be too close together to use USB A adapters unless the adapters have short cables like Apple's.
I agree with the first part
I just reject any notions that progress is impossible if we kept one single USB-A port around
But .. it is what it is (obviously)
It’s almost like Apple would like you to use their adapters and not some other company’s.
I’m thinking about replacing my iMac with mini and Studio Display. Hiding Mac behind the screen could look like a prettier version of iMac.
The thing with the Mac Mini is that it's not a Mac Studio... what is the average user really going to be plugging into it? Apple will want you to get their own Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Most backup drives are USB-C these days. I guess maybe you'll want to get silly and plug an old iPod into it to see what happens?
No, it means exactly nothing, because it is false.
Gaming and certain media playback due to various file types/attributes can push the hardware, like decoding AV1 video for example.
Who is this user, is my question?
We are starting to describe such an incredibly basic computer user that I'm wondering if that person is even interested in a Mac and/or macOS
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Absolutely correct... and those bringing up ancient ports long-since retired are only playing the redirection game. Many/most of them were passionately arguing FOR keeping Lightning right up until Apple finally conceded. Too many of us seem to have evolving opinions based upon whatever we think Apple is wanting to do vs. genuinely what's best for consumers... going so far as to ridicule other consumers for having an opinion that doesn't align with what Apple wants to serve.
USB-A is abundantly in play in 2024. My guess is that USB-C might be as ubiquitous by about 2034. Between now and then, a mix of both is good consumer utility. Going all in on one and thus forcing adapters/hubs is not forwarding anything... just driving more revenue for adapters/hubs.
SCSI, Firewire, 30-pin, etc are all long gone. USB-A will still be very much in play for at least 5+ more years. Apple will vintage a brand new 2024 Mac in about 7.
And this whole "Apple has to to 'force' change" is a big pile of nonsense. Lightning was 'forced' onto a billion+ iPhones and nobody else took up Lightning outside of the niche Appleverse. What drives technological update:
- better utility,
- cheaper benefits, and
- passage of time.
And no, SCSI, floppy discs, firewire, etc have NOTHING to do with that opinion. Those are of "the past" and scarce to nill in "the present." The 3 points worked to replace them- no 'forcing' required.
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oh trust me, i was here. I never liked Lightning ( I may have liked it at the beginning as it was better than the 30 pin but not at all in the last few years).
EU started the mandate because it got out of hands and although EU is flawed this is one of the things I really like. One cable for everything is good for everyone. In the future it might change but we are far from it.
I'm not a big fan when Apple uses proprietary connectors etc. as it makes it challenging for various reasons.
Ie. why can't we upgrade SSD in Studio when the slot is empty? We should be able to just buy a storage of amazon or something and plug it in.
Anyway, thats for another discussion.
I was here before and I will be here for this. USB-A is out, USB-C is in.
I'm waiting for the new mini too and just like the other guy, the first thing that will go in is my USB-A keyboard that i've had for over 14 years
EU started the mandate because it got out of hands and although EU is flawed this is one of the things I really like. One cable for everything is good for everyone. In the future it might change but we are far from it.
I'm not a big fan when Apple uses proprietary connectors etc. as it makes it challenging for various reasons.
Ie. why can't we upgrade SSD in Studio when the slot is empty? We should be able to just buy a storage of amazon or something and plug it in.
Anyway, thats for another discussion.
I was here before and I will be here for this. USB-A is out, USB-C is in.
I'm waiting for the new mini too and just like the other guy, the first thing that will go in is my USB-A keyboard that i've had for over 14 years
No, we are at the point where Apple’s good design decisions allow different types of use cases, instead of only matching yours. It’s trivial to make a light product not move around. It’s not trivial to make a heavy product light, for when I’ll be putting it in my laptop bag. Why should I carry around an extra pound just so you can save two pieces of tape?
Major strawman. I 100% argued that Apple should switch everything to USB-C as soon as they put it on the iPad, and 100% agree with their decision to make Macs USB-C only.
And, horrifying. That's the interpretation that I'm reading from this basically being a shrunken iPad. I do not want a tiny iPad that runs macOS. I want a decently powerful computer capable of running macOS itself with still having high resources to utilize on top of macOS at the same time, like a computer!
But not an iPad.
Heck, even Apple won't put macOS on the iPad, so there is a reason and I believe that it is more than marketing. I've used a friend's iPad, the latest one, and sure it works with iPadOS and running basic apps. But it still run into performance issues on many things.
If they're going to keep selling the iPad with iPadOS, then selling a Mac in this marketing manner seems like a bad marketing move as well.
And sure, they could add more hardware to it, ports and such. But unless the base guts are upped far beyond an iPad's guts then I'm not buying it (either in hype or in my shopping cart) and would rather save for a Studio or something with more power.
Lots to read between the lines. Hope you understand what I'm getting at.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Because third party sellers have big sales- better than Apple- and they generally stock only a few base models. So finally, there will be an opportunity to buy a new Mini at a discounted price and not end up with too little RAM in 2020+.
Consumers want value. Sure they could configure it that way already... but then they pay way, wayyyyyyyyyyy up at the lone, "Company Store" pricing to do so.
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Yeah...the sky is falling. Again.
I guess Apple should be putting warning labels on the packaging stating that people who are not capable of thinking outside the box and having stunted imaginations should not purchase the new Mac Mini. Or be using any computer.
Seriously... it's not going to be a problem. Except for what-if pearl-clutchers.
I'm excited to answer this question, because it's me! I've been using Apple computers since the first iMac (or, if we're being technical, a PowerPC from '94). After having a series of MacBooks, I don't have a need for an Apple laptop anymore but I do have decades of files, music, etc, that I want to keep on a modern machine. I'm only ever using a computer in one location these days, and I'll be upgrading from a 2019 MacBook Air, so it's going to be a huge boost in computing power. Don't care for an iMac because I don't want to pay extra to be locked into that monitor forever.
I think I read it as Mac Mini is the base desktop, and then Studio and above are for professionals. iMac is the all-in-one. However Apple decides to distribute their chips is up to them.