All the reasons seem to be why the next models will feature this, that and the other. Another good reason may be that your current iPhone is absolutely OK and simply does need upgrading.
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5 Reasons to Skip This Year's iPhone 17 Pro
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The usual "wait for the next iPhone" July discussion.
I'll preface my post with I always give in and get a new phone every year. I'm a sucker for it. Some people gamble, some drink, some smoke. I'm a gadget guy and this is my thing. So be it. It's totally not a money decision but a "this is something I like to do" decision. I've been a kind of a phone geek since my Nextel iDen days so whatever.
So that being said, I will PROBABLY get me a new 17PM when they come out. I like having the latest features and particularly the best camera as my phone is my primary camera used to take high intensity action shots of my cats sleeping and sunsets off cruise ship vacations (I'm a middle aged high adventure kind of fellow).
I'm HOPING this new camera bump on the back isn't the end all do all. The current camera bump sucks as it's lopsided. How do you fix that? Make it the full length of the phone. By doing so we make the iPhone look like a Google Pixel. Which is to say pretty darn ugly. Not looking forward to that. I don't know how Apple fixes what's wrong with that otherwise. If I did I would be the second coming of Jony Ive (Who still looks like comedian Jim Norton to me).
A folding phone doesn't interest me. So that doesn't matter to me. I'm interested to see what Apple does in 2 years, but I'm not playing the waiting game in that respect. I'll get the new one every year either way. So be it.
I'm not gonna mince words and say that the Samsung commercials don't catch my eye lately. I still have Apple "everything". iPhone, Mac, Watch Ultra. So I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. But it used to be there was a time when even considering going elsewhere seemed like heresy.
I'm here for now, but Apple better get their house in order. I'm not the sort of customer that should be "looking". If a guy like me who's been an Apple guy for 30 years is looking around, you're in some increasing levels of excrement.
I'll preface my post with I always give in and get a new phone every year. I'm a sucker for it. Some people gamble, some drink, some smoke. I'm a gadget guy and this is my thing. So be it. It's totally not a money decision but a "this is something I like to do" decision. I've been a kind of a phone geek since my Nextel iDen days so whatever.
So that being said, I will PROBABLY get me a new 17PM when they come out. I like having the latest features and particularly the best camera as my phone is my primary camera used to take high intensity action shots of my cats sleeping and sunsets off cruise ship vacations (I'm a middle aged high adventure kind of fellow).
I'm HOPING this new camera bump on the back isn't the end all do all. The current camera bump sucks as it's lopsided. How do you fix that? Make it the full length of the phone. By doing so we make the iPhone look like a Google Pixel. Which is to say pretty darn ugly. Not looking forward to that. I don't know how Apple fixes what's wrong with that otherwise. If I did I would be the second coming of Jony Ive (Who still looks like comedian Jim Norton to me).
A folding phone doesn't interest me. So that doesn't matter to me. I'm interested to see what Apple does in 2 years, but I'm not playing the waiting game in that respect. I'll get the new one every year either way. So be it.
I'm not gonna mince words and say that the Samsung commercials don't catch my eye lately. I still have Apple "everything". iPhone, Mac, Watch Ultra. So I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. But it used to be there was a time when even considering going elsewhere seemed like heresy.
I'm here for now, but Apple better get their house in order. I'm not the sort of customer that should be "looking". If a guy like me who's been an Apple guy for 30 years is looking around, you're in some increasing levels of excrement.
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Best reasons to skip buying a phone that hasn't been released yet? 1) It hasn't been released yet 2) You don't need to upgrade the phone you have now because the one you already have does everything you need it to do.
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still rocking my iPhone 12 mini with now a third-party battery. Upgrading to an iPhone 17 is going to be a massive jump for me, to an 17 Pro even more so, regardless what rumors say may or may not materialize for the iPhone 18
I live in the US and I personally know a bunch of smokers.
My iPhone 13 Pro Max is starting to lose battery a little too quickly so I’ll finally be updating this fall. Apple is going to get a lot of money from me this year as I need to also update my AirPods Pro (waiting for 3rd gen) which are having issues, and finally update my M1 Mac Mini.
Lots of people. in the USA, I imagine many more people smoke than is publicly visible, just not in social situations, because it is not considered socially acceptable, but it don't mean they've stopped smoking. More importantly, the USA is not the world. The UK and Ireland would be similar to the USA in this, continental Europe less so. Outside "the West", in the majority of the world's countries, smoking is still very popular and socially acceptable.
I'm not personally condoning or condemning smoking, but just pointing out that what might be the norm in your locality is not necessarily the norm worldwide.
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Did know a bunch of smokers, buy they have all quit. I live in the US and rarely see smokers anymore, enough that it catches my attention when I do. It's around 10% of adults currently, and dropping yearly. The US has one of the lowest smoking rates in the world.
My vice is tools! Hand tools, power tools, mechanics tools.
I strive to keep my phones for 3-5 years.
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I'm with the 'happy with my 15Pro' camp, to which I upgraded from a 12Pro; will hang on until that post urging me to skip the 18Pro ...
... battery still at 88%
... battery still at 88%
I waited until the 15 Pro to upgrade my iPhone 7.
The phone still took calls, pictures, ran Outlook, and a multitude of MFA programs I use day in and out and NFC support for other hardware. Just got old enough that OS updates were no longer occurring, and some apps didn't support the older OS. It felt like an upgrade, but wouldn't feel that way going to it from say an XS device.
Assuming RAM on the Pro holds out with advent of LLMs, presuming I'll be good until the OS is unsupported again.
Given the rumored production numbers for the foldable, Apple must think they're going to sell a lot of them. If so, I don't think they'll give it a price approaching the Vision Pro. I suspect it will cost around $1500. That's still a lot of money for a phone, but for many people it will be cheap enough.
I'm left wondering how one post-processes an image file with 20 stops of dynamic range when modern displays have far less. And then there's making a print for viewing on a wall, which has even less. And... human vision has around 12 stops of *instantaneous* (for a given iris diameter) dynamic range.
"Apple's upcoming A20 Pro chip, set to power the iPhone 18 Pro models, will reportedly be built using TSMC's third-generation 3nm process"
We cant count? The third generation 3nm will be the upcoming 19pro...A20pro it will be, as rumoured "2nm"
We cant count? The third generation 3nm will be the upcoming 19pro...A20pro it will be, as rumoured "2nm"
how many can modern displays achieve exactly ?
EDIT: I just checked and we're far from that. we'd need 5000 nits
although the vision pro should have enough for that no ?
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Wait! So no 2nm technology for the A20? Two more years on the 3nm process?
EDIT: I think it’s Tim Hardwick’s mistake, because all the articles he links to, point to 3nm for A19 and 2nm for the A20.
EDIT: I think it’s Tim Hardwick’s mistake, because all the articles he links to, point to 3nm for A19 and 2nm for the A20.
You will get that back once you sell or trade in that device eventually. Not worth skipping just to live with the daily annoyance. I got a 15 Pro as well and it's still very much a flagship. Battery life with my 99% health is alright given the very compact size and when that's not enough I carry a thin magsafe powerbank that only adds about 70% of a charge but the compact size means it merely extends the height of the camera bump across the entire back. No cables and the strong magnet make it so I can use the iPhone and put it back in my pocket easily without the powerbank interfering or coming off.
There is nothing I could imagine needing a 17 Pro for. And some minor changes and refinements won't make me spend a grand. Most changes are in software and the 15 Pro will get many more iOS releases and run the same software as the 17 Pro and 18 Pro and so on.
Thus, my main incentive to upgrading is my trusty 15 Pro no longer receiving the latest iOS. It's likely that it will still receive iOS 30 in 2030. I'll get a battery replacement in between and then there's no reason to replace it earlier than 2030/31.
From a performance point of view I still have the 11 Pro and a SE 2022 that has similar performance to the 13 series iPhones. The animations aren't fluid anymore (although with 60Hz they never were to begin with) and apps close relatively quickly during multitasking but both have relatively new Apple replaced batteries and performance especially in more demanding apps like car navigation is still better than on the latest Google Pixel with their terrible (no really, I have multiple Pixels and I see it first hand) tensor chips.
The 15 Pro is set to age beautifully and it's easily beating any Pixel and Samsung flagship in daily app performance for the foreseeable future. Its A17/A17 Pro chip is a guarantee to a long life.
That's hilarious and I don't mind getting suspended for saying it's stupid, too.
If you follow the logic of the story, you'll NEVER upgrade, since there's always going to be something better in the pipeline. Can't wait for the screenless iPhone 35 with holographic heads-up display. And no gross touchscreen, either. super smart SiriAI can process anything verbally! Powered by a nano-fusion reactor: Never needs charging! Just make sure to use the included AirPods: you don't want U-235 too close to your brain. And maybe don't keep in your front pocket, either…
If you follow the logic of the story, you'll NEVER upgrade, since there's always going to be something better in the pipeline. Can't wait for the screenless iPhone 35 with holographic heads-up display. And no gross touchscreen, either. super smart SiriAI can process anything verbally! Powered by a nano-fusion reactor: Never needs charging! Just make sure to use the included AirPods: you don't want U-235 too close to your brain. And maybe don't keep in your front pocket, either…
i think its a mistake from members or from the leaker...yes A20 pro if TSMC has no issues will be with a new tech advanced packaging method known as CoWoS 2nm
My daughter just upgraded from a 14PM to a 16PM and got a really good deal doing it through her carrier. Saving some money by skipping the 17PM to upgrade to an effectively similar 16PM should be on the list, too.