I guess the question I'm wondering is when the 5 year contract started. Apparently Verizon was approached in 2004 so if the contract started then it would have effectively ended in 2009. Also I remember seeing/hearing somewhere that 2009 is when the Cingular/Apple contract ends. So did the Cingular/Apple Contract begin in 2004? That could possibly be good news I suppose, for consumers who don't like Cingular.