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Gmail Outage

According to gmail's website, it went down for 2 hours, they are sorry about it and all email will be delivered. Since I didn't check my mail during those two hours, I never even noticed. Apple went down for days, all while their web page said everything was running fine, until they were shamed into admitting there was a problem and they ended up losing email for some unspecified number of (paying) customers.

Yeah, I'd say it's about the same thing. :rolleyes:
 
benfischer said:
According to gmail's website, it went down for 2 hours, they are sorry about it and all email will be delivered. Since I didn't check my mail during those two hours, I never even noticed. Apple went down for days, all while their web page said everything was running fine, until they were shamed into admitting there was a problem and they ended up losing email for some unspecified number of (paying) customers.

Yeah, I'd say it's about the same thing. :rolleyes:
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I hear ya, but my point is that they are all suspect. Those bragging about their 100% up Gmail service experienced their first issue.

What bothers me is that Gmail is free and STILL has better reliability than a service I pay $100 a year for!
 
Wingnut330 said:
What bothers me is that Gmail is free and STILL has better reliability than a service I pay $100 a year for!
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It's not just the reliability. I can also sync my Google contacts with Exchange which apparently Apple can't (or won't) figure out how to do.
 
Wingnut330 said:
I hear ya, but my point is that they are all suspect. Those bragging about their 100% up Gmail service experienced their first issue.
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Meh, I don't think anyone's been pimping "100% gmail reliability". I've only seen claims that gmail appears to be much more reliable than MM mail. Besides, look at the gmail outage: what was it -- something like 3 hours? And, when was the last time? A month or two back? Compare and contrast this to the MM "comments" here and on Apple's website.

I've been pushing a combined gmail/MM solution, because I don't think Apple has the expertise to pull off a large-scale operation that's comparable to gmail:
  • Gmail has secure web mail access. MM doesn't. This is something that Apple should be able to do, and I'm surprised that they haven't already done it.

  • Gmail has unlimited server-side mail filtering (well, there is a limit on the number of rules that can autoforward mail). I don't see how Apple can ever provide this. If Apple took 1-2 weeks to fix a mail server outage, I'd hate to think how MM would melt down if Apple implemented unlimited server-side filtering.

What bothers me is that Gmail is free and STILL has better reliability than a service I pay $100 a year for!
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Heh, better get used to it.

Oh, and before anyone labels me an "MM hater", note that I'm almost certainly going to sign up for MM. I'm just going to wait another month or so for Apple to stabilize their web subscription system.
 
richpjr said:
I can also sync my Google contacts with Exchange which apparently Apple can't (or won't) figure out how to do.
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At this point, Google is something of a competitor, and so it may be in Apple's interest to not sync with Google contacts. For example, if Google ever implements activesync, I think a lot of (mostly non-Mac?) people would dropkick MM. If all you need is push email, contacts, and calendar, google would then have it all -- probably for free, and probably much, much more reliably.

And, let's not forget Google Android. Of all the iphone wannabees, Android is probably the only one with a chance. Yeah, it's still a long shot, but I think Android has a decent chance.
 
Wingnut330 said:
I hear ya, but my point is that they are all suspect. Those bragging about their 100% up Gmail service experienced their first issue.
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This is just a straw man. I haven't seen any claims that GMail is 100% reliable, just that it's much more reliable than MobileMe has been. This one instance of a couple hours of unavailability, with no data loss, doesn't convince me otherwise.
 
bilboa said:
This is just a straw man. I haven't seen any claims that GMail is 100% reliable, just that it's much more reliable than MobileMe has been. This one instance of a couple hours of unavailability, with no data loss, doesn't convince me otherwise.
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MacRumors's own calculations aren't pretty: https://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/12/two-weeks-later-mobile-mes-uptime-calculated-96/

... and that's just for the past two (2) weeks. For more fun, read the comments: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/542506/
 
I'm definitely not going to renew. Sure many services have outages at times, but I've never had a paid service that had as many glitches and outages as MobileMe/Mac.com.

In my experience (going on 2 years now) it has consistently sucked, and I'm done waiting for it to reach the level I've come to expect from Apple products. I'm sure not everyone who uses the service has had as poor luck as I have, but enough is enough!
 
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