I am always stunned of how easily I recommend vizio these days. No one else offers FALD at their price points. Between their sounds bars and TVs they have to be killing the competition.
Granted I do see samsung's fly off the shelves too.
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55" vs 60", and 1080p vs 4K
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I am always stunned of how easily I recommend vizio these days. No one else offers FALD at their price points. Between their sounds bars and TVs they have to be killing the competition.
Granted I do see samsung's fly off the shelves too.
Appreciate everyone's input. Almost down to a decision. Namely Sony's X810C, the 55" version. Sadly, next step up is 65" -- probably a little too big for the setting.
Any thoughts on 55" versus 60" given that I, at the moment, sit a little close to the TV (~7 feet)?
Any thoughts on 55" versus 60" given that I, at the moment, sit a little close to the TV (~7 feet)?
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That's sort of my worry. It'll fit in the space. But for my distance, I feel like it may be too big. Coming from a 42", I figure either will be a, well, big step up.
I have a 65" plasma. I sit approx 7-8 feet from the screen and its great. The only "bad" is that friends who come over go home and get depressed with their own TV (grin). Seriously, 60" would be great if you like to watch movies. If you only watch TV (other than sports) then perhaps smaller might be 'okay.'
Again, really would pay to do your homework on such a purchase and note that Sony's offerings are not the same as yesteryear where they were the leader. LG, Visio, Samsung have bested Sony on certain media products all through the last decade. I can't tell you which one to get because everyone's preference is a bit different. I prefer 1080p plasma over 4K LED. I'll happily explore 4K when OLED or similar is fully flushed in at consumer prices. On specs purely, I see LG and Visio taking the lead, with Samsung on their tail (for consumer models that are not crazy expensive) followed by Sony then Panasonic. (My plasma is a Panasonic btw and was a replacement for a broke Pioneer Kuro).
There is no such thing as too big!
Could not agree more. There is nothing worse than feeling like you could have gone larger. I personally sit about 7 feet away from a 65"
sad to hear it died =/
I've had my Samsung 65" JS9500 9 Series SUHD curved 4K TV for a month now and every time I turn it on I'm blown away by it. Before it arrived I was really concerned that it would be far too big in the room it was to go in which is only about 20M2, however its not too big at all. I sit probably 8 or 9 feet away from it. Its so comfortable to watch and the picture quality is simply stunning. I've never seen blacks like it, just an incredible TV. I had a 38" before and was forever getting eyestrain, but now I can watch for hours on end without any problems. I couldn't go back to a smaller size now. It was mega bucks though 
but worth it.
but worth it.
I've had my Samsung 65" JS9500 9 Series SUHD curved 4K TV for a month now and every time I turn it on I'm blown away by it. Before it arrived I was really concerned that it would be far too big in the room it was to go in which is only about 20M2, however its not too big at all. I sit probably 8 or 9 feet away from it. Its so comfortable to watch and the picture quality is simply stunning. I've never seen blacks like it, just an incredible TV. I had a 38" before and was forever getting eyestrain, but now I can watch for hours on end without any problems. I couldn't go back to a smaller size now. It was mega bucks though
That is a damn good TV (probably the best LED around), but damn expensive. That goes back to me being shocked that vizio is able to offer FALD at their price point, even if it is less zones.
I've had my Samsung 65" JS9500 9 Series SUHD curved 4K TV for a month now and every time I turn it on I'm blown away by it. Before it arrived I was really concerned that it would be far too big in the room it was to go in which is only about 20M2, however its not too big at all. I sit probably 8 or 9 feet away from it. Its so comfortable to watch and the picture quality is simply stunning. I've never seen blacks like it, just an incredible TV. I had a 38" before and was forever getting eyestrain, but now I can watch for hours on end without any problems. I couldn't go back to a smaller size now. It was mega bucks though
I have the same TV in the non-curved variety and I agree with you. It has completely changed my media consumption mindset on how amazing TV technology has come and is continuing to evolve since my last TV purchase.
4K on this thing is insanely beautiful and people come over and think its a moving painting setting or something. I mounted mine and it looks so much smaller on the wall then it did on the stand but it fits perfectly in the space.
Just my 2 cents about OLED displays. In a recent Macforums post ( https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/25/iphone-oled-display-2018-nikkei/ ) it was mentioned that OLED has better image display qualities, but OLED has a shorter life span. As one who keeps stuff until it no longer works (7 yr old Sony TV, 24 yr old Ford Explorer, 51 yr old marriage), product longevity is important to me! Should it be with OLED TV's?
Oh, and my Mac Pro running Snow Leopard is 7 yr old, too!
Oh, and my Mac Pro running Snow Leopard is 7 yr old, too!
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I wasn't sure about the curve when I bought it, but to be honest you don't notice it. I do feel that it draws you in to the action though. Mine is wall mounted across a corner. I built a false wall across the corner so all the cables etc are hidden behind, or they will be when I get round to finishing the plasterboarding.
No one knows about the lifecycle as it is a new technology. IIRC, it was something like 10 years before the pixels would dim to half of what they are today. That is pretty damn long.
I think it is a bad time to buy a TV right now, unless you like being an early adopter and are willing to take the risks normally associated with being an early adopter, or unless you are happy with the outgoing technology.
The standards are in flux right now. UHD is all the rage, but there are so many aspects of it that aren't yet set that I think it would be unwise to buy a TV today. Will it be 4k or is 8k right around the corner? Will HDMI 2.0 be the standard connection, or will there be further revisions to it? You don't want to be stuck like one of those guys that bought a 480p HDTV with only composite inputs in the early 2000s. Will some form of HDR encoding become standard? Will OLED technology improve and become cheaper? Lots of things unanswered today.
On the flip side, you can probably buy the best 1080p TV ever today for very little money. If that is ok, then go for it.
The standards are in flux right now. UHD is all the rage, but there are so many aspects of it that aren't yet set that I think it would be unwise to buy a TV today. Will it be 4k or is 8k right around the corner? Will HDMI 2.0 be the standard connection, or will there be further revisions to it? You don't want to be stuck like one of those guys that bought a 480p HDTV with only composite inputs in the early 2000s. Will some form of HDR encoding become standard? Will OLED technology improve and become cheaper? Lots of things unanswered today.
On the flip side, you can probably buy the best 1080p TV ever today for very little money. If that is ok, then go for it.
All I know, is I've calibrated my OLED and I literally can't wait to get back to it when I've been out of town or at friends houses.
Even at 1080p, the OLED tech just smokes every other picture I've laid eyes on. It has an almost 3d color and pop to it. Very hard to explain...
...but once you go black (true black...as in pixels are off), you don't go back.
Even at 1080p, the OLED tech just smokes every other picture I've laid eyes on. It has an almost 3d color and pop to it. Very hard to explain...
...but once you go black (true black...as in pixels are off), you don't go back.
Bigger is always better.
We don't all want to blow thousands on a TV. I'll wait for OLED to become mainstream and come down to 1000 for a 55 inch. If that ever happens.
We don't all want to blow thousands on a TV. I'll wait for OLED to become mainstream and come down to 1000 for a 55 inch. If that ever happens.
Thanks to everyone for their thoughts and help.
The point made about not sticking with 1080p because of the ATV was well taken.
OLEDs are appealing but, for me, not worth the money. For now.
Willing to pay for 60"-65" after looking at a few in store.
Problem I'm having: going off Rtings, the 55" (VA, not IPS) version of the X810C seems appealing. Price is nice, then jumps to $1500 for an IPS panel for the 65" version. I'd prefer better blacks/contrast in the VA panel than a little wider acceptable viewing angle. The 55" is also direct lit, as I recall. Not edge.
I'm aware that I'm missing out on HDR (maybe important), 3D (don't care), and local dimming (seems to be of varied importance based on panel). Tradeoff being what seems to be well-reviewed picture quality for most uses.
I currently use a ZVox soundbase. I could use the 55" X810C on top of this. The stand/legs on Vizio and LG models don't appear to be close enough together not allow enough space under the frame.
Suspect any 60" or 65" models would necessitate a new soundbase, as that's my preferred audio source these days. I'm simply having a hard time finding a solid 60" or 65" panel which is priced at most, at $1500 or less, and which would then require a new soundbase, and which appears solid on Rtings and elsewhere.
The point made about not sticking with 1080p because of the ATV was well taken.
OLEDs are appealing but, for me, not worth the money. For now.
Willing to pay for 60"-65" after looking at a few in store.
Problem I'm having: going off Rtings, the 55" (VA, not IPS) version of the X810C seems appealing. Price is nice, then jumps to $1500 for an IPS panel for the 65" version. I'd prefer better blacks/contrast in the VA panel than a little wider acceptable viewing angle. The 55" is also direct lit, as I recall. Not edge.
I'm aware that I'm missing out on HDR (maybe important), 3D (don't care), and local dimming (seems to be of varied importance based on panel). Tradeoff being what seems to be well-reviewed picture quality for most uses.
I currently use a ZVox soundbase. I could use the 55" X810C on top of this. The stand/legs on Vizio and LG models don't appear to be close enough together not allow enough space under the frame.
Suspect any 60" or 65" models would necessitate a new soundbase, as that's my preferred audio source these days. I'm simply having a hard time finding a solid 60" or 65" panel which is priced at most, at $1500 or less, and which would then require a new soundbase, and which appears solid on Rtings and elsewhere.
Fair enough - But if picture quality is your thing, nothing is touching OLED's these days (at least not to my eyes).
Just wanted to throw that option in as the OLED tech itself if so game changing - Much more so than "more pixels" for all of my usages for a good long while (sports, streaming, movies)