5770 or 5880 for FCPX?

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  1. mongeta macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    Finally I have my own MacPro 2008 2x2.8 8 GB ram, ssd, raid hd, ...

    It has the factory video card, and I want to upgrade it with a new one.

    The 5770 is cheaper than 5880, I'm not going to use fcp x as a professional, but I have more than 200 gb in video hd at 1080 that I want to cut, mount, modify, ...

    The difference here is 189 euros, but it's worth it?

    I'm not planning gaming on this machine, I use mainly with Xcode, and fcp x for personal use, but hey, I appreciate my free time and I don't want to stay in front of my computer waiting for it to finish :D

    thanks!

    ps. Also I don't have time now to investigate and flash some pc video card
     
  2. johnnymg, Sep 23, 2011
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    johnnymg macrumors 65816

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    "Worth it" is pretty subjective. The 5870 will be only marginally faster (FOR FCP X) but LOT more expensive.

    Search the barefeats site for fcpx benchmarks.

    Edited (with bolding) for the comprehension challenged.

    JohnG
     
  3. linuxcooldude macrumors 68020

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    I'm not sure if I agree with that. The 5770 is not that much better then the 4870, if that. I think the 5870 is substantially more powerful.
     
  4. mongeta thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well, now I have ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB, I suppose any of those two will be really better :D

    I wanted to change it because AppStore says my video card is incompatible with FcpX, but I've just downloaded it from my MBPro and copied to my MacPro and it's working :confused:

    thanks!
     
  5. flatfoot macrumors 65816

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    "Not compatible" in this case just means that FCPX can't utilize the graphics card's GPU for rendering. So the CPU has to do all the work on its own.
     
  6. mongeta thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Sorry, the exact message is:

     
  7. fs454 macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, it works on a 2600 but you'll get some UI lag and it'll be overall a lot faster with the card. I've been doing a couple little projects on X with my 2600 with no issues though, so don't rush into your purchase.


    I don't know why video card buying has to be a stupidly tough decision for Mac Pros...it's very...unprofessional. I wish driver support was just as it was on the Windows side. I myself am looking at a flashed ebay nVidia card so I can use CUDA cores for After Effects and still hopefully find one with openCL for FCPX.
     
  8. goMac macrumors 603

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    5770 is just fine, but 5870 is better.

    I mean, you'll be fine with either, it just depends on how fast you want to work.
     
  9. mongeta thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm interested in what you can find for openCL keep us informed ;)
     
  10. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    The HD5870 is a better investment. Why? Because it's better.
     
  11. WardC macrumors 68030

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    Your FinalCut render speed is regulated on your processor capability, not your graphics card.

    The 5870 will only give you an advantage in 3D modeling or rendering that directly uses your graphics card (Bryce does not), or 3D games that directly use your graphcs card.

    For FinalCut, Premiere, etc...iMovie even, you will be just as fine with the 5770, Your rendering speeds would be speeded up by a 12-core dual X5690 machine, which would give your maximum Mac Pro render capacity at the current time.
     
  12. toxic macrumors 68000

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    based on this, FCPX wants higher clocks, not GPU power.
     
  13. linuxcooldude, Sep 23, 2011
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    linuxcooldude macrumors 68020

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    Final Cut Pro X does take advantage of opencl to accelerate video processing tasks. And now exporting features GPU acceleration with the recent update of FCP X 10.0.1

    Edit: Well, yes, render speed would be more indicative of CPU and cores. I see the GPU will still speed up the editing process such as realtime effects, video playback ect.
     
  14. WardC macrumors 68030

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    Well it's nice we have people who are on the cutting edge.

    I am thinking about traditional video editing, which compression has always used the processor for, the graphics card only comes into play with certain formats under full-screen playback, but does not have any influence on your compression/export speed.
     
  15. fs454 macrumors 65816

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    I don't think this is true. exporting/encoding/rendering is now GPU-bound with OpenCL. This is why there's a drive to get new cards.
     
  16. goMac macrumors 603

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    It depends. Compression in the old Final Cut Pro is entirely CPU, but even then rendering the output to be compressed would be GPU based.
     

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