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This year‘s iPhones just do not seem like a good buy for me. If Apple can give me ProMotion, LTPO, and the battery life of the 11 series in the 2021 or 2022 iPhone, that is when I’ll upgrade. 5G will be more built out and hopefully more efficient by then too.

I thought we were past the years where Apple only gave mediocre battery life and kept reducing battery sizes with each iteration. The sad part is, Apple probably reduced battery size to make room for the useless MagSafe.

IMO MagSafe is the only interesting thing in this year's update. There's lots of future potential there.
 
to estimate the efficiency of 5g vs 4g, wouldt you not rather measure energy consumption per fixed amount of transfered data instead of surfing for 9 hours straight???

When I read the article I initially thought the same, but then I re-read that that's actually what they did. The article says that the script reloads the page every 30 seconds, so essentially they are measuring a fixed amount of data. In a given hour, the amount of data they both downloaded would be size-of-website x 120.

I get where you're coming from - with stuff like this its common for the new tech to use more energy than the old tech, but offset that by being able to finish the job quicker and in the end use less net energy (like it uses 10% more power but is able to do the job in half the time). So a test which doesn't account for it being able to do the job quicker doesn't paint an accurate picture. In this case though, I think they've accounted for that because they aren't forcing the radio to work for a given amount of time, they are actually letting it run exactly as long as it needs to run to download a fixed amount of data.
 
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I would be more than happy to have a slightly thicker phone with more battery on it. Not sure what this fascination with thinner is. If I don’t have a case on my phone I find the phones too slim and slippery.
Thicker + more battery = heavy brick. That’s what people don’t want. The 12 Pro Max weighs 228 grams—over a half-pound.
 
That doesn't sound like a scientific test. No repeats, until the battery was drained, etc...

The battery indicator shows 100% even when there's still some headroom. The battery will deplete faster when it's already warm. Then there's also no way to know what is running on the phone that's draining the battery; indexing files, recognizing faces in photos, apps requesting location info, that kind of stuff.

In theory the extra RAM in the pro might use a bit more power and maybe there's some antenna signal or cooling differences between the aluminum and stainless steel cases.
 
Thicker + more battery = heavy brick. That’s what people don’t want. The 12 Pro Max weighs 228 grams—over a half-pound.

I'm in that camp. I don't think my phone has died on me in years. I'll take the thin-ness. If someone prefers thicker with more battery, you can accomplish that with a battery case. It's not really possible to go the other way around and make the phone thinner by getting rid of unneeded battery capacity.
 
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That doesn't sound like a scientific test. No repeats, until the battery was drained, etc...

The battery indicator shows 100% even when there's still some headroom. The battery will deplete faster when it's already warm. Then there's also no way to know what is running on the phone that's draining the battery; indexing files, recognizing faces in photos, apps requesting location info, that kind of stuff.

In theory the extra RAM in the pro might use a bit more power and maybe there's some antenna signal or cooling differences between the aluminum and stainless steel cases.

It's not meant to be a scientific test meeting the rigor you're expecting. It's just meant to quickly verify something that we already know based on seeing this repeated in all other devices using 5G (and even using the same Qualcomm sourced parts).
 
The never ending story with iPhone batteries and how they're never sufficient enough. No matter what.
 
This is one reason why I’m waiting on ordering (the other being in changing carriers and I need to research coverage in my area some more). I want to see performance from the masses rather than some bloggers, influencers, and tech reviewers. I’m in no hurry to upgrade, I can wait a couple more months.
 
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5G is not needed today. Just good coverage of the latest LTE standards is sufficient. The most optimal option for the next few years.
Definitely... T-Mobile says that after 50GB of data, they may throttle your speed.
Also, Video is streamed at 480p. So what's the point of having 5G if your data is capped and then you'll go back to good ol' misery speed?
And Apple with their obsession to make the iPhone thinner and thinner each time, instead of just leaving it the same and using a bigger battery. Oh wait! They want to sell you a battery case for extra $$$. That explains.
 
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I’ll be rocking 5G full time to see how it performs battery wise. This assumes it will be widely available with Verizon. I’m talking about their low band 5G.
 
making the case for the smart battery case. can a smart battery case work with the MagSafe charger?

What about a magnetic battery pack instead? Imagine the wallet, but with a battery in it. Way easier to put on when you need that extra charge.
 
Would not have been a good look for apple.
Agreed. Thanks to the constant advertising by the carriers (including AT&T's false 5Ge), and the increasing noise tech sites and youtubers do about 5G, even the lay consumers are expecting 5G if they pay for a premium phone this year, whether they actually can use it or not.
 
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Definitely... T-Mobile says that after 50GB of data, they may throttle your speed.
Also, Video is streamed at 480p. So what's the point of having 5G if your data is capped and then you'll go back to good ol' misery speed?
And Apple with their obsession to make the iPhone thinner and thinner each time, instead of just leaving it the same and using a bigger battery. Oh wait! They want to sell you a battery case for extra $$$. That explains.
Make battery smaller. Put power draining features (5G). Take out the charger. Make accessory for fast wireless charging.
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Profit!! :D
 
Me: buys super expensive iPhone 12 to have new features over the 11, such as 5G.
Also me: turns off 5G instantly to save battery, happy I just blew a wad of cash upgrading my iPhone.
 
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Predictable post warning. I wish Apple woulda given another 1-2mm in thickness to battery, given the first year of new tech. iPhone 5 was beautiful, but they really underestimated the LTE drain and it had the worst battery of any iPhone (that I recall).
 
Well, since they didn’t take into account the other energy usage during the test, like display, background processes, etc...it’s likely greater than a 20% increased drain, though most people will be hard pressed to surf for 9 hours in a completely 5G environment. I’m lucky if I even see the 5G symbol briefly blink on my status bar during my normal day, lol!
 
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