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It’s a tremendous value, an obvious upgrade for people who aren’t tech savvy and already using older iPhones.

Lol, I want to give my mom a new M1/8GB iPad Air 5 or Pro 11 but she doesn't want an iPad that's missing a home button. Alas, I don't think A13/3GB will last all that long (maybe just 2-4 years).
 
They do feel the same performance-wise. The A13 is still very fast. My SE2 needed to be charged twice a day now so fresh battery is the biggest benefit I get with the SE3.

I upgraded primarily because I need LCD and the SE3 should have longer useful life than the SE2 in the event Apple goes all OLED. *sigh* I see lots of painkillers in my future.

well this sucks... I was hoping to get performance improvement. Buying a new phone and feeling like its the same phone feels like just a waste of money.
 
Lol, I want to give my mom a new M1/8GB iPad Air 5 or Pro 11 but she doesn't want an iPad that's missing a home button. Alas, I don't think A13/3GB will last all that long (maybe just 2-4 years).

2-4 years is a lot of years
 
2-4 years is a lot of years

True but I’m the one who’s doing maintenance on her iPad and the 3GB will annoy me way before it annoys her. :p

Mind, she used her Pro 9.7 for 6 years.

Also, I’m looking at the 128-256GB cellular config for her and at $609, the 9th gen looks far less attractive.
 
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which phone are you coming from? i got se 2020 and wondering if the upgrade is worth it. Last thing I want is to pay $200-300 in difference and it feels just the same.

Upgrading from 6S. That's still a great phone but I expect that to lose support later this year. With supply chain issues, I didn't want to be in a position where the phone stops getting iOS/app updates and then I'm stuck because the SE 3 could be sold out by then. I specifically wanted the home button and old-school form factor,, and since Apple still offers it, that's what I bought.
 
Lol, I want to give my mom a new M1/8GB iPad Air 5 or Pro 11 but she doesn't want an iPad that's missing a home button. Alas, I don't think A13/3GB will last all that long (maybe just 2-4 years).

I still have my iPad Air 2 which still runs great (on iOS 14, I'm still hesitant about putting 15 on it).

I also have the 8th generation iPad I bought last year with the home button. It's the last one with the white bezel!!
 
I still have my iPad Air 2 which still runs great (on iOS 14, I'm still hesitant about putting 15 on it).

I also have the 8th generation iPad I bought last year with the home button. It's the last one with the white bezel!!

I’ve used the Air 2 on iOS 13-15 and performs great isn’t how I would describe it. Honestly, wishing I’d just kept it on iOS 10 for older apps.
 
I’ve used the Air 2 on iOS 13-15 and performs great isn’t how I would describe it. Honestly, wishing I’d just kept it on iOS 10 for older apps.

I haven't had any issues with iPadOS 14. iPadOS 13 introduced a lot of new features and I think 14 was more of a refinement. I never update to "iOS/iPadOS.0" releases.

Software updates have trade-offs. At some point you have to decide if it's worth sticking with old software versions at the expense of having a device that is increasingly functionally limited. Most apps these days require 14 as the baseline; some banks won't even let you log in without updating first. The same goes for Safari since those versions are stuck at the same version as the operating system.
 
I haven't had any issues with iPadOS 14. iPadOS 13 introduced a lot of new features and I think 14 was more of a refinement. I never update to "iOS/iPadOS.0" releases.

I agree about 14 being a refinement of 13. I just found the Air 2 quite laggy even on iOS 12.


Software updates have trade-offs. At some point you have to decide if it's worth sticking with old software versions at the expense of having a device that is increasingly functionally limited. Most apps these days require 14 as the baseline; some banks won't even let you log in without updating first. The same goes for Safari since those versions are stuck at the same version as the operating system.

True but when that happens, I just buy a new device. I was already on the A10X/4GB Pros when iOS 12 rolled around.

The iPad is my primary platform for personal computing so I prefer to upgrade as soon as performance starts to drop (CPU, RAM, battery, insufficient storage). The older iPad is then relegated to running legacy firmware/apps, testing iOS betas or passed down to family/relatives. On rare occasions, I’d trade them in.
 
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