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FW 800

Originally posted by KLFloyd


You may be right...but my undertanding from Job's keynote was different.

I was under the impression that a Mac with FW800 could use FW400 devices, with the adapter. Not the other way around. In the case as described above, the iPod would be the newer device (just like any other CD Burner or Scanner) trying to use the older machine...again I could be wrong just my limited understanding of how that worked.

Reguardless, if it works...I'm sure apple will want us to throw out another $50 for the adapter as our penalty for not upgrading to FW800 machines.

If anyone else out ther has any other info please do chime in...

What I understand is that the interface bridges for FW are the same on each end, ie the FW 800 in the Mac and the FW800 in the accessorie are the same. If it is possible to use an adapter on teh Mac port to slow it down to 400 and allow the 6/4 pin cable, why not allow an adapter on the accessorie [iPod] end to slow it down to allow it to be used on a FW400 port on a machine? This is the beauty of the FW since it a host independent hardware set, the bridges are in most respects the same.

BTW, I agree with the posters who are saying that the iPod will not have FW800, it's just too fast for a device that already has trouble filling up the FW400 pipe. The hard drive in the iPod could never even get close to the 800, no way. Perhaps a couple of years down the road, but is after FW400 is no longer showing up on any Macs, and FW has scaled out to the full range of 800-3600Mbps. And the thing you plug in can keep up of course. HDs gotta get faster. Perhaps Solid State Memory?! :)
 
substantially sized, stable, reasonably priced solid state hard drives... i will cry for joy when this happens, oh how the day does draw ever closer.... *sigh*

and yes, no fw800.
 
Criminey, I wish Apple would release this little beast, whatever it is. And NOW, fercryinoutloud.

Only they can do it right, but, uhhhhh, D*MN! JUST DO IT!

Muy frustrado,

mangoman
 
Updates Feb. 3

From the Think Secret Website:

iLife delayed until Jan. 31; hardware upgrades at fault
By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief

January 23, 2003 - Sources confirmed today that the sale of Apple's iLife software package has been delayed from January 25, this weekend, until January 31. However, the date was backed up not as the result of any software issue, but rather to correspond with the release of new hardware speed bumps.

According to our sources, iLife discs have already been burned and Apple's retail locations are already sitting on boxes of the bundle, ready to sell: While the sale has been delayed, the shipment clearly has not.

In fact, the delay has nothing to do with iLife itself or its applications, but rather the forthcoming upgrades to iMacs and other hardware. iLife has been delayed to correspond with the release of the new hardware, on which the iLife applications will be pre-installed.

The new models will tentatively be announced the following week, probably on Monday, February 3.




Think Secret is usually on the money, allthough the iPod and iLife really have nothing directley to do with eachother (other than iTunes) could it be the time table for the new iPod release is Feb. 3 as well? Lump all the updates into one event for the Press?

I hope so!
 
Re: Updates Feb. 3

Originally posted by KLFloyd
Think Secret is usually on the money, allthough the iPod and iLife really have nothing directley to do with eachother (other than iTunes) could it be the time table for the new iPod release is Feb. 3 as well? Lump all the updates into one event for the Press?

I sure hope so! :D
 
My Ipod was delayed AGAIN!!! This time until Jan 31 :eek:

grrr

This is the same thing that happened to my Powerbook order right before they announced the 17"s.

Apple is trying to tell us something.
 
5GB iPod sold out in ALL online Apple Stores

As of right now, the 5GB iPod is completely unavailable at the following online Apple Stores:

- Austria
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- France
- Germany
- Hong Kong
- Republic of Ireland
- Italy
- Japan
- Netherlands
- Norway
- Singapore
- Spain
- Sweden
- Switzerland
- UK
- USA

(That's all of them!)
 
Amazon has one (1) 5GB Mac left, 5GB Win is not stocked/discontinued.

Right now, Amazon.com has one 5GB (Mac) iPod left in stock. It's out of the 5GB (Win) iPod. They say, "This item is not stocked or has been discontinued."
 
Think Secret is usually on the money, allthough the iPod and iLife really have nothing directley to do with eachother (other than iTunes) could it be the time table for the new iPod release is Feb. 3 as well? Lump all the updates into one event for the Press?

I hope so!



thats the thing... i think the new ipods will have a lot to do with ilife... itunes of course, but now that itunes is integrated directly with iphoto for slideshows i think the ipod will be updated as well be it with a colour screen or simply outputs to hook it up to your home theatre, or anyones for that matter to share your creations... the ipod will be the new slide projector if you will, hopefully with more interesting content than grandmas trip to hawaii... but thats just my opinion... a worldwide outage of ipods does spell new DLD to me...
 
me thinks (hopes) 5GB no longer. prices move down like before

10GB = 5GBprice etc

then apple releases a 40GB iPod with tvOut function through their mini-VGA port. small port, lots of options.

also if you take it that they are adding video function to the ipod then it makes sense to dro the 5. how much video + music + contacts + ical can a 5GB really hold.

oh well. have to wait and see. not like i have money now anyways. i am saving for a TiBook 1G
 
5GB iPod still good

The low-end iPod should remain at 5GB if it means a new price drop. If Apple updates the firmware to make it play MP4s then a bit more music would fit in 5GB than is possible with MP3.
 
well

10gb mac & win have moved back to 1-2 days shipping
as has the 20gb mac

howover the 20gb win says, regardiny shipping estimate "currently unavailable"

5gb are of course still unavailable for order.
 
Originally posted by melchior
well

10gb mac & win have moved back to 1-2 days shipping
as has the 20gb mac

howover the 20gb win says, regardiny shipping estimate "currently unavailable"

5gb are of course still unavailable for order.

Yeah I saw that...so any thoughts on what that means now?

Could it be that either supply reall was the problem...

Or is Steve just messing with our minds? You know he said during his Keynote that he read the rumor sites.
 
Jack Osbourne with a 40GB iPod?

Just adding more fuel to the fire here, this was from MacMinute:

Jack Osbourne and Donny Osmond talk about their iPods in behind the scenes footage from their new Pepsi Twist commercial, which debuted during the Super Bowl yesterday. Click on "Exclusive Behind the Scenes Footage" and then go to "Episode #2 Battle of the Bands" to view it. The interesting part of the footage is when Osmond says that he has a 20GB iPod, while Osbourne has a 40GB model

Jack Osbourne with a 40GB iPod? Interesting...probably not true but interesting...
 
The ship time for the 20 gig is up to 5-7 days again. I think new ones are on the way and will be here this week.

Did anyone get a look at Jack's Ipod? Does it look the same as the current models? Wondering if there is going to be a cosmetic upgrade as well.
 
Originally posted by cliffm
The ship time for the 20 gig is up to 5-7 days again. I think new ones are on the way and will be here this week.

Did anyone get a look at Jack's Ipod? Does it look the same as the current models? Wondering if there is going to be a cosmetic upgrade as well.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Now all the iPods (except 5GB) are back to 5-7 day wait time. Strange. But here's my question: In addation to iLife it looks for sure like Apple will release 10.2.4 and new iMacs this week, would they update the iPod line at the same time. That seems like a lot of updates to come just a few weeks after MacWorld.

And, if all these updates are happening, when? Surley Apple would put out some kidn of PR saying "Steve Jobs will introduce updates on (Whenever) at (Whatever time)." And when will they be posted to the Apple Store? Since no updates are up as of this morning does that mean it's not happening today? Someone on one of the other boards said that Apple changes their webpage at Midnight, not sure if that's true or not.


As for the pepsi ad, the video was pretty small but it looked just like a normal iPod. Considering that commercial was probably made months ago I highley dobut it's a 40gb iPod. Link so you can see for yourself if you haven't already done so. You're going to want to click on "Episode 2: Battle of the Bands"
here?http://www.pepsitwist.com/osbournes/index.htm
 
Originally posted by KLFloyd

And, if all these updates are happening, when? Surley Apple would put out some kidn of PR saying "Steve Jobs will introduce updates on (Whenever) at (Whatever time)." And when will they be posted to the Apple Store? Since no updates are up as of this morning does that mean it's not happening today? Someone on one of the other boards said that Apple changes their webpage at Midnight, not sure if that's true or not.

General web site updates take place at midnight.

When web site changes for new product introductions tend to take place during Trade Show talks (like MacWorld keynote speech) and press conferences is at the end of the announcement/speech. With a product that comes out not attached to either of those, the web site tends to get a 9AM Eastern or 9AM pacific time update.

Having said that, since the Apple Store is offline currently (8:30 Eastern) I suspect new products will be up at 9AM Eastern today. Whatever the changes to the store are.
 
I just saw the new products released and was so bummed to see there was no iPod and very surprised to see there was no new iMac. I thought all the rumors were pointing to new iMacs.

Some people on the other boards are saying that we'll see updates of the consumer line a week from today but I find that hard to believe. Would apple really revamp it's entire product line inside a month? Is this common?

I'm starting to loose hope that we'll see new iPods anytime in the near future though I hope I'm plesentley surprised. Any thoughts on what the chances are now?
 
In these times

The PowerMacs and the Powerbooks are professional class machines. iPod, iBook, & iMac are consumer class. Consumers do not spend during war. Apple may want to release consumer updates later, rather than sooner.
 
"New" logo appearing on Apple Store's iPod section

I was just checking out Education prices on Apple's Education store for my school and I was very surprised to see that the section of the store that features the iPod now has the "New" green dot over it. I immediatley clicked on the link and nothing had changed.

It's a little curious because the only other items on the site that have the new logo are the new PowerBooks and the new PowerMacs and now the iPod. However, the iPod still says the same text, 20GB Model, wired remote, etc...just has the "new" logo on it.

Maybe I'm digging too deep here but it caught my eye. I'm REALLY hoping for new iPod updates and I guess I'm just clinging to any rumor out there.
 

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MacWhispers run by known crook...

Originally posted by sparks9
toshiba has now released a 40 gig hd that fits the iPod.
www.macwhispers.com says that they expect a new iPod within 30 days from now...
I think that would mean that the other ones drop in price.

Don't trust the MacWhispers. It's a new thing by one Jack Campbell, who a few months ago had MacTable.com, illegally selling high-end office furniture, shut down quickly, and has had many net incarnations, all seemed very fly by night, and contradictated himself and his expertise many times in the same thread, over and over.

A hoser, in short. MacCentral has decided not to listen to his site. Beware.:eek:
 
Originally posted by sparks9
well... take a look at toshibas website.. the 40 gig is there.

I'm not talking about some of the validity of public knowledge he prints, just that in general, I would not support this site. Much of his public credibility has been damaged in recent past events he has participated in. In fact, since his Mactable fiasco last fall, he has been off the radar till now, and this is a pretty incognito presence.

Oh, BTW, MacWhispers.com, by a supposed mac lover an advocate, is run on Microsoft web server. LOL. :eek:
 
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