7 months with Android (Nexus 6P)..now back to iOS

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by petvas, Jun 26, 2016.

  1. petvas macrumors 601

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    The last three, maybe four years I have always been going back and forth between iOS and Android, mainly because of HTC devices (I love their design). Last November I switched to the Nexus 6P and started using it, thus replacing my iPhone.
    I am not going to talk about what OS is better (both OSes are very good, so it really depends on your needs). I am sure everyone has his/her opinion about that. I will try to write about my subjective experience.
    First let me say that if you do not want to start customizing and searching for the best apps, Android is still lacking in the out of the box experience. The difference is not big, but it is the small things that add up to the total experience.
    I was really in love with my Nexus. I loved customizing it, love the widgets. I started using Google Now and was sometimes amazed by its capabilities (which come at the expense of our privacy though - if you care about that..).
    At some point I came to the realization, that everything is really a matter of perspective. People are complaining that iOS is not customizable enough. That might be true, but in Android this capability comes with a cost. Everyone is talking about widgets, for example. I had one calendar widget on my main screen, and then one widget for Google Keep, some folders with apps and a background picture widget, and the weather.
    Most of the times and in order to glance at these widgets, I had to go out of the app I was in and then scroll to the page that had the widget I wanted to look.
    Anyway, widgets are really nice, but when you start using iOS and Android, the difference is not so big. Actually, in iOS you can just have a glance of all information from anywhere. So, iOS is actually more efficient und utilitarian than Android.
    The share sheets on Android is another interesting area. iOS has made a lot of progress, but this is where Android really shines.
    What made me return to iOS though?
    I was at a concert with my wife and I started making videos. My Nexus saved these videos, but it was running low on battery. When I returned home, my Nexus had shutdown and when I charged it, I had a very bad surprise. All of my videos were gone! I guess, the Google camera app had only temporarily saved these videos and since the Nexus had no battery charge left, all videos were deleted..I was so angry. The first and most important thing for a smartphone is reliability. After that, I could not trust my Nexus anymore.

    I am now back to an iPhone 6S Plus, and yes, some things are not working as I got used to in Android, but the overall user experience is still better, especially for people that have Macs too. The main points where Android is still lagging are:
    • UI in iOS is more fluid and smooth. I never have lags. With the Nexus, this was unfortunately not the case..
    • Tap on the top bar to scroll up. This is really great and I don't know why Google hasn't implemented it yet.
    • Hey Siri works more reliable than "Ok, Google". I can reliable set my timers and alarms.
    • The quality of apps on iOS is really better. Skype, OneNote, DKB (internet banking - German). The difference is quite big.
    • The Android UI looks more "geeky". I like it, but iOS looks more beautiful (of course this is subjective).
    • The display on iOS is amazing and text rendering much better. I know, most people would say that the Nexus (and other Android flagships) have 2K AMOLED displays, but look at the iPhone 6S Plus: The screen looks like painted on the glass. It looks amazing. The 1080p resolution is good enough. Yes, text might look better on Android, if text rendering was on par with iOS. It is similar to the text rendering on MacOS and Windows..
    • The hardware quality. I believe that only HTC can match the quality of the iPhone.
    • Updates. Need to say more?
    • Messaging. Hangouts is not on par with iMessage.
    Of course, Android is a very capable OS and I will continue following it. I also had the chance to use the Dev Beta 4 of Android N. It is looking very promising, but still, I decided to go back to Apple. Now I can use Things and my other Mac apps, and have a better integration between my devices. I am losing in some functionality (especially the extensibility of Android and the keyboards, which are better), but overall I believe that Apple is still the best for me. I also like where iOS 10 is going.
    I believe that Android will always be like Windows. Very capable, but not as polished as iOS (which is more limited though).
     
  2. Fille84 macrumors regular

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    Ehh ok...these "I'm switching back" posts are so funny. They're always long as hell.
     
  3. I7guy macrumors G5

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    They're really no different than the "switching back to android ". Everybody should use what works for them. Both mobile o/s are good; it's a matter of preference.
     
  4. BlueGoldAce macrumors 68000

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    TLDR, but I read your bullet points.

    Lag on the Nexus 6P? Tech reviewers don't agree with you, nor do most of the people who use one. Long iOS animations may seem more fluid, but that is al lit is.

    "Ok, Google" works for me quite well, but i rarely use either. "Hey, Siri" requires it to be charging....so kind of a limited appeal.

    Onenote is great on android, largely because of the sharing abilities. I don't see the quality difference.

    I don't agree with the text rendering, but that is subjective.

    Hardware quality, not anymore. HTC, Samsung, and several others match Apple now.

    Updates? This is where you lost me...completely. The Nexus 6p gets constant updates, on a monthly update, at a rate more frequent than iOS. Either this thread is fraudulent, or you just included this since it is a commonly referred to issue. Ill assume the later, at which point, its a mixed bag. If you buy an unlocked android phone from google, or a few other manufactueres, you are fine. The situation is improving, but if you get a carrier locked phone, good luck. Consumer knowledge is power here. This complaint doesn't apply to the Nexus family, and thus makes no sense in your post.

    iMessage is superior to hangouts, you will get no argument from me. Alto looks to change that this summer, but google hasn't released it yet.

    Anyway, I took the time to reply because I was in the mood to voice my opinion. That is all your post is, as well as mine. iPhone vs Android, Ford vs Chevy, Republican vs Democrat.

    Technology and software at this point has nearly eliminated the gap. There are advantages and disadvantages to both sides, related to the nature of their software, and how it is packaged.

    No offense to you, or anyone, but these "going back" post are becoming mundane. The same arguments will develop, the flames will spread, and eventually it will get shut down.

    Again, I don't mean offense, and apologize if it comes across that way.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 26, 2016 ---
    I think his response may have referred to all "switching back post".
     
  5. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    Actually it doesn't anymore, at least not on the latest iPhones---can set it to always listening, even when not connected to power.

    I think this comparison will be more interesting in a few months once the new Google Assistant and updated Siri are released.

    Don't disagree with much of what you said (monthly security updates, not feature updates and Nexus are the only phones to get near immediate updates when new versions are released but even then they don't all get them immediately) but to be fair, he did preface his bullets with the statement, 'The main points where Android is still lagging,' not specifically comparing just the Nexus 6P in that list.
     
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    Or you could've kept it short and simple and say, "it just works!" The typical mantra from Apple apologists. Short and simple coming from me and my long posts. Haha... I can hear Stewie asking me, how's that novel I've been working on? Self-deprecating aside, whatever works for you, you go for it. To paraphrase SJ, nobody is telling that you are using your phone the wrong way.

    Typing this on my cheap Android while my Game of Thrones episodes in MKV format is playing in the background with MX Player. I think I will go download some HD videos using TubeMate or FLUD because I CAN. ;-) Have fun with iOS. My honeymoon phase with it completely ended in 2013. Through good times and bad like my loyalty with the LA Clippers since 1992, my allegiance is still with Android. I hate fairweather/bandwagon fans. I stick to something no matter how much hatred and flaws it has.

    Anyways, enjoy whatever you prefer.
     
  7. I7guy macrumors G5

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    You had a great post going until the name calling.

    The reason I don't download normally, now I don't even do it when I'm flying due to cable channels and wifi on aircraft, is with Netflix, HBO go, showtime, Sirius, max, USA, stars, tcm, esquire, fox, ifc and others, everything I could want to watch is available.
     
  8. BlueGoldAce macrumors 68000

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    Well....that requires you to pay content, like any consumer good, and not pirate it.

    "Shame, shame", "shame, shame"
     
  9. MRU, Jun 26, 2016
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    Was about to say the same. Everyone is entitled to a preference about which OS they prefer.

    But... it does seem to me certain folks basis for saying Android is superior is based pretty much on the fact that it is easier to access what is essentially stolen content.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I would love if someone can provide a actual reason to why iOS apps are better quality. As someone that uses both Android and iOS, the majority of cross platform apps are basically the same quality, besides an option or two on a few specific apps.
     
  11. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    The crossed platform apps which I use are very much the same too bar a few small differences here and there, but essentially the same. There are certain apps which are platform specific which are better on iOS than alternatives on android, but likewise there are some vice versa.

    If you want to talk quality gulf between apps just compare the android or iOS version with windows phone or blackberry version of same app if it's even available. Now that's worth complaints.
     
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    After having a bit of scotch with my wife's uncle on Saturday I'm back to bourbon it's just better.

    <insert bullet points here>

    Of course scotch is good and I will continue to have some when served but bourbon is far more to my liking.

    ;)
     
  13. I7guy macrumors G5

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    "I'll take my jack Daniels straight up with a side of iOS", he said.
     
  14. petvas thread starter macrumors 601

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    For me, Skype and OneNote work better on iOS. I don't know why, but they just do. Also, my online banking app (DKB Banking) is a zillion times better on iOS. Maybe we should ask the developers..
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    I really enjoyed my time with the Nexus. I just wish that the hardware quality would be better. I also missed using an iPhone.
    The Nexus does have lag, but I guess this is something normal in the Android world. The phone is mostly very fast and smooth, but then a time comes where a reboot is required to make it smooth again.
    Another thing that bothers me on Android, is that there is no universal platform. Every OEM is presenting its own version of Android. Look at Samsung and LG and Huawei. I wish Google didn't allow that kind of customization.
     
  15. akash.nu macrumors 68020

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    This is because generally iOS frameworks are more robust and well designed and the fact that developers can't put garbage in their code much as third party APIs are not allowed on iOS.
     
  16. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Skype, I see no difference. But I've noticed it will not keep me logged on longer than several days on iOS. On Android I have no problem with Skype keeping me logged in. Also see no different using One Note.

    As far as your banking app, can't speak on that, but I've notice some banks cater more to one platform over another, especially smaller banks.

    The whole "work better on iOS. I don't know why, but they just do" is exactly what I'm talking about. IMO, if you can't give a actual answer, then it might just be a placebo effect based on preference of iOS itself.

    That one of the best things about Android. Plenty of features that are on pure Android and iOS influenced from manufacturer's skins, especially the latest upcoming updates.
     
  17. BlueGoldAce macrumors 68000

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    Again, I don't agree with you on the lag aspect. Especially with Android N (beta) on the Nexus 6p. I can compare it to my 6s plus...i don't see what you are referring to.

    I think Google is moving, slowly towards a more regulated approach. They will never be as locked down as iOS, so if your looking for that level of closed...you won't get it with Android.

    Honestly, it's like Mac OS vs windows 10 (the anniversary edition, beta). They are different but both are extremely stable and productive on the right hardware. The advantage to the Mac OS is that all the hardware runs the software well, but it is also all high end pricing.

    For Windows 10, you have to buy the right hardware. A $250 Lenovo from Best buy isn't going to give you a great experience. A surface book or surface pro, both high end price wise, will give you one of the best portable computing experiences available. The varied, and unregulated hardware, can be an advantage when it comes to the dell xps 13. It's cheaper than the MacBook pro 13, and superior in some areas.

    It's the same with Android. Buy a high end phone, like a s7, and you get one of the best phones available. Buy a prepaid lg from Best buy and you will regret it. But again, the advantage can be see will the Nexus 6p, as well as the oneplus 3. Cheaper price but an excellent phone (with the Nexus being even better for software updates, compared to the oneplus 3).
     
  18. jamezr macrumors G4

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    It sounds like you found what you prefer most and that is a very good thing! There is no problem is preferring one platform over the other. People has different preferences.
    I switch between mt 6s+ and S7 edge, OPO3, 6P, Note 5 all the time. I see a ton of differences in apps that work better on one platform versus the other. Sometimes the devs themselves prefer one platform over the other and it shows in their work.
    Personally I find both platforms can do just about the same thing as the other. Android lets me have a level of control over my user experience that I cannot find in IOS. For that reason I find myself using it more and more.
    The great things about the Nexus 6P is that you can flash custom roms like CM13. IMHO the N6 really shines with CM13. Very stock like experience with a great number of features.

    Anyway....enjoy your iphone! It's a great phone!
     
  19. spinedoc77 macrumors G3

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    As much as I have complaints with my 6p, lag is NOT one of them in the least. I also find OneNote better on Android, among other features it lets me write with my finger which iOS doesn't (unless this has recently changed).
     
  20. petvas thread starter macrumors 601

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    With Android N I had no lag whatsoever. With Marshmallow every three to four days there was a slight lag.

    The OneNote Android app syncs very slowly and has a bad UI. It is much better on iOS. This is not the fault of Android, but of the developers.

    In general, the underpinnings of iOS are much more robust, than the ones of Android. iOS has a unix kernel and it uses objective C (mainly) for development. On the other side, Java is not as fast and optimized.
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    I would say, for now yes. I will certainly look at Android at some point again. For the moment I am enjoying the tight integration between my Macbook Pro and my iPhone. I had missed it. I also missed the UI and the general smoothness of iOS.
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    This is for me the worst feature of Android. What happened to uniformity and common user experience? I think this is a problem for Google too. They do not like what Samsung is doing with Android. (or other OEMs)
    Being able to change a launcher is certainly great, but making your phone work completely different than what Google intended to, is a problem. This is for the Nexus not an issue, but it is a platform issue.
     
  21. spinedoc77, Jun 27, 2016
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    Yeah I'm on N and it's completely lag free, unlike my Note 5. I never used MM very much on the 6p so don't have much experience with it. OneNote on both my Note 5 and 6P sync almost instantly, easily within seconds. What don't you like about the UI? It seems fine to me. As I mentioned before I dig the ability to write with my finger, which the iOS version doesn't have.

    I think it's great you are happy with iOS. I vacilate back to them 1-2 times every year, especially with a new release, I just get bored and feel functionally hamstrung and end up switching back to Android eventually. I like both systems though and the perfect phone would take features from both systems. I'm not thrilled with any Android phone atm though. The Note 5 has crappy earpiece sound, reception is so so, and the usual caveats with carrier updates being so atrociously late. The 6p lacks OIS, is way too large for the screen size, the light sensor on it is junk.
     
  22. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I think common user experience is overrated. For myself, many aspects of manufacturer skins are better than pure Android. I like TW toggles and notification dropdown better.

    I also think the Android marketshare would be extremely lower than what it is today, if all models were pure Android. Google could have never done with Android what Apple did with iOS.

    Choice is what made Android so popular.
     
  23. gotluck macrumors 603

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    I hear you and can respect that.

    I'm a salty guy on the other side of the coin though - if the gs7 was carrier free with a more stock Android approach (with quicker and longer term support say 4 years , since they don't have to use so many resources on software) I would be on Android right now. Nobody makes that phone.
     
  24. Surf Donkey Suspended

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    Well even stock android (ie Nexus) aren't giving 4 year support anymore (at least not officially). So literally no one makes that phone.
     
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    I would also argue they aren't as premium wrt hardware either. Give us a top end device!

    I am sad about 2 years, I know custom Roms but still.. Is it really that hard/expensive to keep it going. Most people would rather pay less upfront, but I want some support.

    Samsung is probably the only one who could pull it off. I get pissed off about what could only be
     

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