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Not to mention when iOS decides what's a remarkable record in your life and what memories you should have.
 
I have an original Apple Watch and can't use the feature, my life is not as valuable to apple ;)
Apple in 2018 has nothing in common with Apple in 2000. Apple in 2000 expected that your computer was going to last for years and years, with constant support from Apple, and running rock-solid. Apple in 2018 expects that your devices are obsolete in the very same moment you buy them: the user won't be able to stop OS updates (unless applying unofficial hacks like the tvOS profile, hacks that will cease to exist eventually), and this means the device will start crawling like a turtle in a couple of years. So, the problem you have is that you bought a current Apple device with the mindset of a user from the Apple in 2000. That's wrong: Current Apple devices imply current Apple fan mindset: new device every year, while accepting every Apple nagging popup without reading it.

When you follow that way, Apple will start caring about your life.
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Does it work with the 1st series that they still currently sell? I still have mine and I can't find any settings for adjust it.
You are not thinking with Apple 2018 fan mindset.
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One day, those people will discover that they're not forced to buy Apple products and leave these forums.

Hah, who am I kidding...
If we had chosen to buy Apple products because of their "cool factor", we'd have already followed that way some years ago, as Apple stopped being cool when they started going the big data business path. But we are here not because of coolness (if we want a cool watch, we do buy a cool watch, not a smartwatch). We are here because we bought Apple products as they were the greatest technology products on Earth, with no other real competitors whose offerings could be compared. Do you think we prefer Linux to MacOS? Not at all, we prefer the real MacOS (OS X) way of doing things. Unfortunately, there's no way for bringing that back to life with the current Apple, so we are kind of trapped in this (sad) moment of times.
 
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I am no doctor, but isn't your heart rate dependant upon your weight? I thought the maximum heart rate decreases if you lose weight. Why not check for the users weight in this page itself, otherwise wouldn't there be a lot of false alarms??

Heart rate is based on many factors, genetics, diet, lifestyle, stress, cardiovascular system, weight can play a role as the heart has to pump harder, however the app works if the heart rate increases above a certain level after 10minutes of inactivity. Many people have a resting heart rate between 50-70. Lifestyle, nutrition play the biggest role in cardiovascular health.
 
Your car And Apple Watch analogy is actually terrible. The Apple Watch battery life is actually very good, but that’s also based on how somebody uses it. But most likely don’t have to charge their watch throughout the day and can easily achieve over 18 hours. Its No different than having to charge your iPhone on a daily basis in most cases, why is it so difficult and that much of a hassle to charge an Apple Watch? It’s not.

Try to charge your apple watch if you're hiking or traveling. I often have to be for about 20h on airports, and planes, meaning that there's no way I can charge it every 18h. Sometimes not even every single day.
But yeah my analogy is terrible.
 
Very cool story!
[doublepost=1526119995][/doublepost]To be honest the doctors may have saved his life. And this is not even easy to prove, because we don’t know if his condition would’ve killed him. The Watch basically set off an alarm based on the upper limit which was set by the user himself. And you can do the same and most likely end up to the doctor someday. Some people will have heart disease.Some will die because of it. That is all we can say based on this story.
 
I am no doctor, but isn't your heart rate dependant upon your weight? I thought the maximum heart rate decreases if you lose weight. Why not check for the users weight in this page itself, otherwise wouldn't there be a lot of false alarms??
Nope
 
I love the fitness aspect of the Apple Watch. I've improved my cardio abilities three times over since owning one. It's really the device's stand out feature. Like a personal health monitor, I hope Apple can add new sensory capabilities in subsequent versions.
 
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Try to charge your apple watch if you're hiking or traveling. I often have to be for about 20h on airports, and planes, meaning that there's no way I can charge it every 18h. Sometimes not even every single day.
But yeah my analogy is terrible.

Series 3 Apple Watch lasts much longer than that. Mine’s currently on 33% of battery with 5 hours and 54 minutes of usage and 1 day, 18 hours of standby. I forgot to charge it last night, but it doesn’t seem to be such a problem.

Edit: This is the non-LTE model as we don’t have the LTE version in Finland.
 
Great Apple! Now lower the prices of your products. I get a heart attack every time I see the price of a Watch that has the potential to save my life.

Wow a watch that can save your life is somewhat expensive who would have thought!

The series 3 starts at $329 (USD). Not to mention you can get this feature on the series 1 that’s still available for $249 (USD).

I’m front Australia so with tax we pay $459AU or $359 for Series one. That’s not that bad for a decent watch.
 
Try to charge your apple watch if you're hiking or traveling. I often have to be for about 20h on airports, and planes, meaning that there's no way I can charge it every 18h. Sometimes not even every single day.
But yeah my analogy is terrible.

In my experience there are ways to charge a device even when you’re off the grid temporarily, say hiking for a week. For example, I carry a portable battery that has a solar panel built in. Not great, but good enough.

But assuming you’re sincere and not trolling, I get that the main issue for you is the need to charge more often than, say, once a week - at all. Why can’t Apple make or use a better battery? Fair enough.

My understanding (and I’m not an engineer) is that given the combination of form factor (size), function, resolution, and current battery technology - it isn’t doable. At least economically.

So, as I understand it, the choice as of now comes down to whether or not the combination of those factors is worth the trade off of a shorter battery life.

Sounds like the AW isn’t for you. No problem. There are other good products to choose from.
 
[doublepost=1526119995][/doublepost]To be honest the doctors may have saved his life. And this is not even easy to prove, because we don’t know if his condition would’ve killed him. The Watch basically set off an alarm based on the upper limit which was set by the user himself. And you can do the same and most likely end up to the doctor someday. Some people will have heart disease.Some will die because of it. That is all we can say based on this story.
The AW comes set with the alert at 120bpm. The article didn't really say what his alert was set at, or that he changed it himself to something other 120.

It was a cool story nonetheless. I think with 2 arteries completely blocked and the other 90% blocked, a heart attack was inevitable. Maybe not that day, but soon.

I wonder...with his heart in that condition, why suddenly, did his heart rate increase when he was not active? What his resting rate already high, say 110, and something caused a slight bump up, setting off the alert?

EDIT: the link to the article itself shows a screenshot of his iPhone's heart app, showing his resting rate for the day was 62bpm. Odd that it would suddenly jump to 120. Odd to me, at least!
 
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Still won’t change the naysayers claiming that it’s a failure, Tim Cook is a crook, and Apple is doomed.

Sadly, yes. That gives those with little power an opportunity to feel good about themselves, for a minute or two.
 
How many coronary arteries are there in the heart? There are three main coronary arteries that provide oxygen and nutrients to the myocardium (heart muscle). These include: the right coronary artery, left coronary artery and the circumflex artery.

So two were blocked and one was operating at 10%, so that is 66% blocked and the other is 90% blocked, so a grand total of 3.3% of blood supply flowing in the body. And he felt fine. Does nobody stop to think about things any more, that they are so blinded by brainwashing propaganda that they will suck up this nonsense like a sponge with no shame whatsoever? Even defend such an absurd proposition?

The main problem in this day and age is that people are told what to think but not HOW to think.
 
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How many coronary arteries are there in the heart? There are three main coronary arteries that provide oxygen and nutrients to the myocardium (heart muscle). These include: the right coronary artery, left coronary artery and the circumflex artery.

So two were blocked and one was operating at 10%, so that is 66% blocked and the other is 90% blocked, so a grand total of 3.3% of blood supply flowing in the body. And he felt fine. Does nobody stop to think about things any more, that they are so blinded by brainwashing propaganda that they will suck up this nonsense like a sponge with no shame whatsoever? Even defend such an absurd proposition?

The main problem in this day and age is that people are told what to think but not HOW to think.
Not sure what you are getting at. Were you in his shoes?
 
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An article about a guy who got an alert from his Apple Watch to seek medical attention. He would have not otherwise gone to the hospital. Based on what’s stated in the article it sounds pretty inevitable a heart attack would have occurred. It’s dumbfounding that people can turn this into a negative about Apple. This has nothing to do with MacBooks or iOS. If you don’t like the direction Apple is headed then find something else. People have been talking about the downfall of Apple for years now and shocker, they are more valuable now more than ever. This article is nothing but a positive. If you can turn this into a negative you need to look inward.
 
Apple in 2018 has nothing in common with Apple in 2000. Apple in 2000 expected that your computer was going to last for years and years, with constant support from Apple, and running rock-solid. Apple in 2018 expects that your devices are obsolete in the very same moment you buy them: the user won't be able to stop OS updates (unless applying unofficial hacks like the tvOS profile, hacks that will cease to exist eventually), and this means the device will start crawling like a turtle in a couple of years. So, the problem you have is that you bought a current Apple device with the mindset of a user from the Apple in 2000. That's wrong: Current Apple devices imply current Apple fan mindset: new device every year, while accepting every Apple nagging popup without reading it.

When you follow that way, Apple will start caring about your life.
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You are not thinking with Apple 2018 fan mindset.
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If we had chosen to buy Apple products because of their "cool factor", we'd have already followed that way some years ago, as Apple stopped being cool when they started going the big data business path. But we are here not because of coolness (if we want a cool watch, we do buy a cool watch, not a smartwatch). We are here because we bought Apple products as they were the greatest technology products on Earth, with no other real competitors whose offerings could be compared. Do you think we prefer Linux to MacOS? Not at all, we prefer the real MacOS (OS X) way of doing things. Unfortunately, there's no way for bringing that back to life with the current Apple, so we are kind of trapped in this (sad) moment of times.
I’m not sure of who the “we” is you speak of. But it seems like some off-topic ranting for what purpose I’m not sure. I like the apple of 2018 and the products they sell. Maybe the Apple of 2018 isn’t for everybody just like the Apple of 2000 wasn’t for everybody.

Times change, people change, businesses change.
 
I don’t see that post as sarcasm. I see that post as the poster blames Apple for allowing safari to let “addiction “ oriented individuals use Facebook for hours at a time as in “reefer madness”.

You used the words common sense and parenting. Please don’t use those words around here. This is all apple’s fault./s

i also didn't think it was sarcasm.

lol very true of these boards ... it's all Apple's fault.

Have a good one.
 
Series 3 Apple Watch lasts much longer than that. Mine’s currently on 33% of battery with 5 hours and 54 minutes of usage and 1 day, 18 hours of standby. I forgot to charge it last night, but it doesn’t seem to be such a problem.

Edit: This is the non-LTE model as we don’t have the LTE version in Finland.

Again, if you're a business traveller it's even worse. I might go two days without charging something.


In my experience there are ways to charge a device even when you’re off the grid temporarily, say hiking for a week. For example, I carry a portable battery that has a solar panel built in. Not great, but good enough.

But assuming you’re sincere and not trolling, I get that the main issue for you is the need to charge more often than, say, once a week - at all. Why can’t Apple make or use a better battery? Fair enough.

My understanding (and I’m not an engineer) is that given the combination of form factor (size), function, resolution, and current battery technology - it isn’t doable. At least economically.

So, as I understand it, the choice as of now comes down to whether or not the combination of those factors is worth the trade off of a shorter battery life.

Sounds like the AW isn’t for you. No problem. There are other good products to choose from.

No, I'm not trolling at all. I would love to have an apple watch, same as an iPhone. However, their limited batteries kind of annoy me. And when I hike, to bring extra batteries isn't an option for the matter of weight. 300 or 400g is more than enough to become uncomfortable when you're carrying food, water, shelter and gear.
I do think that it could be an amazing device, but for example if you look at garmin, they have devices that do pretty much the same, but with longer lasting batteries. But same as you, I'm not an engineer so I have no idea why apple doesn't do it. I would prefer less notifications and more battery than having to charge it every day.
Same as when I travel. I do it often, and most trips last for 2 days between origin and destination. However, I don't want to be one of those guys charging all of their stuff while they wait for the next flight.

So far I have an extremely old fitbit, which isn't enough for what I want, and to be honest I'm just waiting for Garmin or Fitbit to release something compact and with the features I'm searching for, to buy something. But if the Apple Watch would last at least 4 days, I can guarantee you that I would buy one.
I'm also not really happy with the fact that it depends on the iPhone so much.
 
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I am no doctor, but isn't your heart rate dependant upon your weight? I thought the maximum heart rate decreases if you lose weight. Why not check for the users weight in this page itself, otherwise wouldn't there be a lot of false alarms??

Every hypochondriac on the planet and every person worried about their elderly relatives will now go out and purchase a watch and cha-ching, Apple gets paid and every doctors office fills up with idiots who think they're gonna die, not to mention the disreputable physicians who will start suggesting expensive surgeries or treatments, "just in case" of course. I'd like to see the obituary for this mans dead cousin from the story and HIS actual x-ray of the clogged arteries to have it verified (not a Google image photo of a clogged artery). No time for 2nd opinions anymore when Apple Watch says something's wrong, Watch Out!!!

You can't buy publicity like this (unless of course, they did)... if this is the same Gaston D'Aquino, who is marketing director of Diamond Specialists M.I.D., it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that this was a manufactured story or a sweetheart deal between Apple and the high-end Honk Kong jeweler that sells its product in sothebys, christies among others to gain attention to both suppliers products and it even works towards Timmy's goal of breaking into the Asian markets. Heck, maybe Timmy boy might come out with a diamond studded edition watch and use this jeweler product innit. Big corporation, slow witless consumers, sounds about right to me. That is if it's the same person, I've no access to a desktop right now with VPN to thoroughly research.

So much for depopulation due to natural causes, guess everyone can have a bucket of fried chicken tonight to celebrate. Smudge up all your shiny new Mickey Mouse watch faces with your greasy chicken skin fingers to make sure you're still gonna live awhile.
 
Every hypochondriac on the planet and every person worried about their elderly relatives will now go out and purchase a watch and cha-ching, Apple gets paid and every doctors office fills up with idiots who think they're gonna die, not to mention the disreputable physicians who will start suggesting expensive surgeries or treatments, "just in case" of course. I'd like to see the obituary for this mans dead cousin from the story and HIS actual x-ray of the clogged arteries to have it verified (not a Google image photo of a clogged artery). No time for 2nd opinions anymore when Apple Watch says something's wrong, Watch Out!!!

You can't buy publicity like this (unless of course, they did)... if this is the same Gaston D'Aquino, who is marketing director of Diamond Specialists M.I.D., it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that this was a manufactured story or a sweetheart deal between Apple and the high-end Honk Kong jeweler that sells its product in sothebys, christies among others to gain attention to both suppliers products and it even works towards Timmy's goal of breaking into the Asian markets. Heck, maybe Timmy boy might come out with a diamond studded edition watch and use this jeweler product innit. Big corporation, slow witless consumers, sounds about right to me. That is if it's the same person, I've no access to a desktop right now with VPN to thoroughly research.

So much for depopulation due to natural causes, guess everyone can have a bucket of fried chicken tonight to celebrate. Smudge up all your shiny new Mickey Mouse watch faces with your greasy chicken skin fingers to make sure you're still gonna live awhile.
I see no problem with this. If apple has a technology solution to provide information about one's health and people buy that solution. Viola. It's a win-win on both sides.

I cannot see any downside to this. hypochondriacs don't need an apple watch as an enabler as what you are suggesting.
 
I am no doctor, but isn't your heart rate dependant upon your weight? I thought the maximum heart rate decreases if you lose weight. Why not check for the users weight in this page itself, otherwise wouldn't there be a lot of false alarms??

Or fear, pain, dehydration, poor fitness or almost anything else. If everyone with an elevated heart rate shows up in the ED it will break the US healthcare system... (IAAD)
 
that has nothing to do with the spikes that an apple watch can detect. The predictor of mortality described in the article you linked is a steady high heart rate, which the watch wouldn't detect. The watch might be good at detecting arrhythmias but that has nothing to do with the article. The story described is just a lucky one.
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First, quoting back the remark to which I was responding:

This post makes no sense. The heart rate is in no way connected to coronary disease. He just got lucky... it has nothing to do with the apple watch.
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The very first sentence of the abstract of the paper I cited in response clearly shows your statement to be inaccurate. Beyond the first few sentences the paper gets into medical science territory that probably neither of us are qualified to interpret. Yet I can recall not long ago when Apple introduced this feature that it was based on medical studies that found resting heart rate spikes to be a marker for coronary artery disease. So this is not a willy-nilly claim. But your argument appears to just the familiar one saying we should ignore objective evidence that doesn't line up with how we feel.
 
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