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7D and 5D II at Skywalker ranch

mbell75 said:
Thought this was awesome. I know some here love to knock the DSLR video capabilities with all the aliasing and lack of resolving video. Too bad George Lucas and Quentin Tarantino dont agree as they watched short films on a 40 foot screen shot with both cams :)
You really need to stop getting so butt hurt because, oh my god, DSLRs have flaws shooting video and people talk about them! :eek:

It's a tool, not your soul mate, stop being so sensitive.

http://philipbloom.co.uk/2009/12/12...er-ranch-red-tails-star-wars-and-canon-dslrs/
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Philip Bloom is very talented regardless of what camera he's using.


Lethal
 
That's one of my favorite blog-posts of his, well written and just loved hearing several of his dreams come true. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Bloom.

As to the video... it's a gorgeous video. The intriguing aspect of the 5DII/7D to Lucas was the incredible footage from a camera that can get stuffed in a small area, ie an airplace cockpit.
 
I want to apologize for some of my language in my previous post. I want this forum to be a place for helping and sharing knowledge and posts like that do neither.


Lethal
 
LethalWolfe said:
I want to apologize for some of my language in my previous post. I want this forum to be a place for helping and sharing knowledge and posts like that do neither.
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I'd say you earn enough Brownie points around here for at least one foul-mouthed tirade per week. (Don't know if there's an alternative on offer if you don't wish to spend them this way.)

mbell75, in its correct context, the video from the Canon VDSLRs is really good, but it's not perfect and you've made some pretty outlandish claims which people picked up on in an attempt to bring the balance back to where it should be.

I don't think you'll find many who actually dislike the VDSLRs (are other people calling them that or is it just me?).
 
LethalWolfe said:
I want to apologize for some of my language in my previous post. I want this forum to be a place for helping and sharing knowledge and posts like that do neither.


Lethal
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it must have been deleted lethal b/c i don't see it.

Plus, we're all allowed a bad day or moment.

You're always providing helpful advice so don't worry about it.

As for the video - just amazing and it comes at a time when I was thinking of expanding on a business idea where I might need a video camera.

instead of buying just a video camera, I may upgrade to one of those DSLRs.

Cheers,
Keebler
 
Keebler said:
it must have been deleted lethal b/c i don't see it.

Plus, we're all allowed a bad day or moment.

You're always providing helpful advice so don't worry about it.

As for the video - just amazing and it comes at a time when I was thinking of expanding on a business idea where I might need a video camera.

instead of buying just a video camera, I may upgrade to one of those DSLRs.

Cheers,
Keebler
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You and me both. I loved it. I am really looking at the 5DII now....... Or should I say I am looking at it even harder! LOL
 
pretty awesome footage. but remember its really the person, not the gear that makes great images :)
 
stagi said:
pretty awesome footage. but remember its really the person, not the gear that makes great images :)
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Absolutely agree about the person and not the equip. My goal is to interview individuals and I like the idea of having a Dslr as well
But I did check out the prices and I'm not sure if the xti or the more expensive 5d

Choices. Choices

cheers
keebler
 
"pretty awesome footage. but remember its really the person, not the gear that makes great images "

Ohhhh....How true that statement is:)

I've been shooting with my 5d2 for a year and a half now...7d for 3 months. Getting pretty footage constitutes sooooo much more than the camera and corresonding lenses;)

But....I will agree, contrary to all the bitching about aliasing, limited resolved detail, jello, limited recording time, overheating, et. al. I've had nothing but an incredibly fun time owning mine.

That said, they are complimentary tools for me. I also shoot with an HVX200a and EX-1...the DSLRs though, tend to add another creative tool to the kit, for shots impossible for me to grab on 1/2 or 1/3" sensors!

J
 
stagi said:
pretty awesome footage. but remember its really the person, not the gear that makes great images :)
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What exactly did he do? None of those shots are complicated in the least. He just set the camera on a glide track, focused where he wanted, hit record and moved it along the track. 90% of us here could do that. No tricky light, no tight angles etc...Bloom's work is very good, but there was nothing difficult about any of those shots at all minus the time lapse but those were stills :)

I agree about needing to have a true video camera for certain shots though too. There are certain times where one will work better than the other.
 
I've been doing some research on the 5D lately, but i wanted to know how they look with night shots under low light, or constant changing back light (ie street lights while driving in a car)?

I currently have a panasonic hd camcorder but the low lights suck, so i'm looking to upgrade and a new DSLR would be great. My Nikon 40D will be handed down to the wife.

Thanks. Sorry for thread jumping.

The video of the 7D and 5D looked great.
 
mbell75 said:
What exactly did he do? None of those shots are complicated in the least. He just set the camera on a glide track, focused where he wanted, hit record and moved it along the track. 90% of us here could do that.
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So he just set the camera up willy-nilly and hoped something visually interesting would happen in front of the lens? He didn't look around the environment and make a purposeful decision to shoot X instead of Y? He didn't make decisions about what would be good to shoot at dawn, what would be good to shoot in daylight and what would be good to shoot at dusk? He didn't set the exposure of the shot to help create a mood or to direct the viewer's eye to a certain part of the frame? He didn't think about shot composition? He just randomly selected lenses and filters out of his kit w/no regard for how they would impact how and what he shot?

All of us here can also write and perform cuts-only edits but that doesn't mean we can all create a compelling story or skillfully edit a feature film. Whenever I hear someone say that Kirk Hammet, for example, isn't that great of a guitarist because it doesn't take long to learn his songs I typically ask the guy what original music he's written that's as good as Kirk's or better. Reverse engineering something good easy. It's creating something good all on your own that's the hard part.

w...b said:
I've been doing some research on the 5D lately, but i wanted to know how they look with night shots under low light, or constant changing back light (ie street lights while driving in a car)?
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The lower light performance should be better, but the dynamic range might not be (it depends on the quality of the camera you are coming from).

Barry Green (yes, him again) has a good article comparing the GH1 to the 7D and in it he not only talks about those cameras but also about how the features of the DSLRs in video mode compare to features typically found on standard video cameras. If a DSLR lacks a feature you can't live w/o as a shooter it's better to read about it now than to find out about it after you've forked over some cash.


Lethal
 
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