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AlomWare-com

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Something to be aware of... if you upgrade to 8.3 then you won't be able to use iFunBox or iTools to access your device anymore. Stick with 8.2 if that's important to you.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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Something to be aware of... if you upgrade to 8.3 then you won't be able to use iFunBox or iTools to access your device anymore. Stick with 8.2 if that's important to you.

No issue here. I've been using iOS 8.3 since PB1 was released and now using the Final version of it, and iFunBox, iMazing and iBackUpBot all work without a hiccup.
 

AlomWare-com

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Jan 23, 2015
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No issue here.
What? Even the devs of iFunBox say it doesn't work with iOS 8.3 and that they're working on a fix. Have you tried to copy files to/from your device with it, or just connected it? It'll still connect, but file transfers don't work.

From https://www.facebook.com/ifunbox.dev on April 10:

"iOS 8.3 ruined our freedom of controlling data in our installed Apps and Games. Apple blocked access of the entire sandbox directory of every installed App since iOS 8.3. Previously only writing is block in executable directory. Now we totally lost the control of Apps on our own devices. We are investigating the situation."

Also:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...owse-app-documents-after-upgrading-to-ios-8-3
http://discchord.com/blog/2015/4/10/ios-83-warning.html
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
13,761
9,435
Ventura County
What? Even the devs of iFunBox say it doesn't work with iOS 8.3 and that they're working on a fix. Have you tried to copy files to/from your device with it, or just connected it? It'll still connect, but file transfers don't work.

From https://www.facebook.com/ifunbox.dev on April 10:

"iOS 8.3 ruined our freedom of controlling data in our installed Apps and Games. Apple blocked access of the entire sandbox directory of every installed App since iOS 8.3. Previously only writing is block in executable directory. Now we totally lost the control of Apps on our own devices. We are investigating the situation."

Also:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...owse-app-documents-after-upgrading-to-ios-8-3
http://discchord.com/blog/2015/4/10/ios-83-warning.html

I deleted files. I did it this afternoon before I backuped my device as I do on a weekly basis. I delete temporary files from some applications so it doesn't add to my backup size.

I just tried my Girlfriend's phone and it does not work.

Were you by chance on the Public Beta? She wasn't and went from 8.2 -> 8.3. I went through 8.2 -> 8.3 PB1 -> PB2 -> Final. Maybe that changed something..
 

AlomWare-com

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Jan 23, 2015
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I delete temporary files from some applications so it doesn't add to my backup size.
And you deleted them with iFunBox (or similar tool) with iOS 8.3 installed? :eek:

No, I was never using public betas. I've passed your info to iFunBox's Facebook page to see what they have to say. Your info may help them with a fix! :)
 
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Simplicated

macrumors 65816
Sep 20, 2008
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254
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
I haven't been able to do that since I installed 8.3 final on my iOS devices. That sucks, because I was trying to manually restore data to my iPad. God dammit Apple, stop taking away our freedom...
 

hunt2013

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Feb 15, 2011
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I deleted files. I did it this afternoon before I backuped my device as I do on a weekly basis. I delete temporary files from some applications so it doesn't add to my backup size.

I just tried my Girlfriend's phone and it does not work.

Were you by chance on the Public Beta? She wasn't and went from 8.2 -> 8.3. I went through 8.2 -> 8.3 PB1 -> PB2 -> Final. Maybe that changed something..

Strange. None of my devices have been able to do this before 8.3 beta 2.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
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8.3 kills iFunBox and iTools

:-s thanks alot apple. now i cannot backup some files anymore... who ever made this decision, please go and kill yourself... (just tried iBrowse from my laptop)
 
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kupkakez

macrumors 68000
Apr 4, 2011
1,880
742
Austin, TX
I really wish I would have found this before I updated my iPad and iPhone x_x

I use ifunbox to manage two different Kim kardashian Hollywood games (I know I know dumb game but so addicting) and now I can't get the other one back without ifunbox. At least it's saved on my desktop. Hopefully this will be fixed!!
 

Jessica Lares

macrumors G3
Oct 31, 2009
9,458
914
Near Dallas, Texas, USA
I've seen this happen with PhoneView and DiskAid/iMazing, and Calibre. They've probably just made further changes to how USB connections work. Most of the hacking that can be done on iOS needs to be done via being plugged in, so they're constantly making changes to patch things up. They wouldn't be totally patching it though, there's lots of sync software out there.

iMazing isn't working at the moment too BTW. But I know it'll be updated within the week.
 

Scubadiver

macrumors member
Oct 25, 2007
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35
Cutler Bay, Florida
Working for me - except for Apps

FWIW, I'm on 8.3 (was on the public beta), and most of iFunBox is working for me.

I can see the filesystem, the pictures (was able to delete one), etc.

But anything having to do with Apps, does not work.
 

Menel

macrumors 603
Aug 4, 2011
6,231
1,169
Yup, no more backing up my game saves with iExplorer for titles that don't utilise iCloud saving. Bollocks.

All apps and games use iCloud saving. That's done from Apple's API end.

You might be thinking of iCloud syncing, which uses an additional pool of iCloud storage, to sync across devices.
 

gumbyjunior1

macrumors regular
Nov 22, 2013
119
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'Merica
Something to be aware of... if you upgrade to 8.3 then you won't be able to use iFunBox or iTools to access your device anymore. Stick with 8.2 if that's important to you.

All the more reason I am glad I am still on 7.1.2
I am sure that those two apps will get updated fairly quick.
 

RebornProphet

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Nov 3, 2013
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All apps and games use iCloud saving. That's done from Apple's API end.

You might be thinking of iCloud syncing, which uses an additional pool of iCloud storage, to sync across devices.

No, all games do not use iCloud saving. :rolleyes:

It has to be added by the developers. For example, I need to play through the first three episodes of Game of Thrones by Telltale again because there is no iCloud saving and I had to restore to 8.3 when the public build came out as I was in the betas.

Telltale themselves have answered this request by users on their own forums as saying this is a feature they may add in an update. Game of Thrones saves game progress to the device only, as do a great many other titles.
 

MikhailT

macrumors 601
Nov 12, 2007
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No, all games do not use iCloud saving. :rolleyes:

It has to be added by the developers. For example, I need to play through the first three episodes of Game of Thrones by Telltale again because there is no iCloud saving and I had to restore to 8.3 when the public build came out as I was in the betas.

Telltale themselves have answered this request by users on their own forums as saying this is a feature they may add in an update. Game of Thrones saves game progress to the device only, as do a great many other titles.

Correct. Developers need to store the specific files in a specific container that is backed up to iCloud. Otherwise, Apple would be backing up the cache and other temporarily files that are not needed.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
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All apps and games use iCloud saving. That's done from Apple's API end.

You might be thinking of iCloud syncing, which uses an additional pool of iCloud storage, to sync across devices.
not all use the icloud backup and in my case i could only restore data if the app crashes and looses data by restoring the whole device with itunes backup.. also if i change my device i need now to share those files in the same way by restoring from itunes...
 

Menel

macrumors 603
Aug 4, 2011
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8.3 kills iFunBox and iTools

not all use the icloud backup and in my case i could only restore data if the app crashes and looses data by restoring the whole device with itunes backup.. also if i change my device i need now to share those files in the same way by restoring from itunes...


You just describes how iCloud Backup works. Its full device only.
 

X5-599

macrumors regular
Oct 28, 2012
110
15
It wouldn't be all that bad if Apple allowed to only include data of specific apps when doing a backup. I mean a backup just for data. Nothing OS related. Like others said it would be really convinient for games that don't save to icloud.

For example I've had a million apps on my iPad. But I really only need savegames etc from like 5 of them. If I get a new device and I want those savegames back, all I can do is a full backup. That, considering the time I've been using my iPad, may very well introduce/carry over problems to the new iPad...

I think it is quite reasonable to want a clean install (OS) and just resore data from specific apps.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
3,456
1,525
europe
You just describes how iCloud Backup works. Its full device only.
in this case, only full itunes backup works. and i rarely do full app backups with itunes. now i need to do that until someone figures how to access appdata again...
 
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