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Update to 8 core mac??

Prolly just the motherboard. ;) :eek: :confused:

Now you've unleashed a new mystery Susan & Adam. These kinds of unannounced updates are one of the reasons some of us are still waiting a little while longer. Anyway can you try and find out what's changing Susan? Inquiring minds need to know. :)


Hello all..long time lurker...first time poster. I decided to upgrade my 1st Gen Dual 2 Ghz G5 and placed my order on April 17th with Apple's business unit for the 8 core Mac Pro... after a hold being placed on it by my credit card company...for the unusual activity...lol.. I got it straightened out on Wednesday April 18th.

As an fyi..don't know about delays in shipping... but my info says the following:

MAC PRO,CTO
Z0D8

Custom configuration
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Ships by: Apr 20 - Apr 24
Delivers by: Apr 24 - Apr 30

Curious to know when Susan and Adam placed there orders and when they were notified by Apple of the delay.
 
Curious to know when Susan and Adam placed there orders and when they were notified by Apple of the delay.

Well I actually placed my order on the 5th of April, but through tooing and froing, and various delays over the business lease agreements, I finally received a go ahead a couple of days back. On that day (17th), my 'ships by' date was the 24th. The following day, I checked the order, and it had been cancelled, and then re-entered with a ship date of the 25th! :confused:

I also can't understand why it will take another 2 weeks to get to me after shipping! :]

Ships by: 25 Apr, 2007
Delivers by: 04 May, 2007 - 07 May, 2007
MAC PRO,CTO
Custom configured

Cancelled
Product Qty.
MAC PRO,CTO
Custom configured

Any improvements they fit in before despatch is ok by me! :)

Adam
 
Well I actually placed my order on the 5th of April, but through tooing and froing, and various delays over the business lease agreements, I finally received a go ahead a couple of days back. On that day (17th), my 'ships by' date was the 24th. The following day, I checked the order, and it had been cancelled, and then re-entered with a ship date of the 25th! :confused:

I also can't understand why it will take another 2 weeks to get to me after shipping! :]

Ships by: 25 Apr, 2007
Delivers by: 04 May, 2007 - 07 May, 2007
MAC PRO,CTO
Custom configured

Cancelled
Product Qty.
MAC PRO,CTO
Custom configured

Any improvements they fit in before despatch is ok by me! :)

Adam

Hmm...interesting... Adam are you in the U.S.? or U.K.? Reason I'm asking is the way the dates are posted... just trying to do a little sleuthing here.
 
Update to 8 core Mac?

I've been talking to sales support again, different person this time. She hadn't heard of any changes but checked and called me back, she says there has been a change of manufacturing location, hence the delay.

Does that explain why the order for the machine had been cancelled (on the tracking page) and then reinstated.

So looks like the original reason I was given was inaccurate, I suspect they make it up as they go along.
 
I've been talking to sales support again, different person this time. She hadn't heard of any changes but checked and called me back, she says there has been a change of manufacturing location, hence the delay.

Does that explain why the order for the machine had been cancelled (on the tracking page) and then reinstated.

So looks like the original reason I was given was inaccurate, I suspect they make it up as they go along.

Ah.. :]
 
The Trip Home

So where ARE these machines manufactured anyway?

Looks like mine was manufactured in China, made a stop in Hong Kong... is presently in Anchorage, Alaska.. and is due to make it to NJ, USA on Wednesday April 25th.


Hooorahhhh!!!!
 
Talk for yourself buddy and I mean only for yourself. Sorry, But what about rendering using Maya, Strata etc. and also using pro music sofware like Logic or Cubase. Some plugins (VST, AU, RTAS) uses a lot of processing power.

So don't asume that 8 cores are not needed just because your apps will probably not use them. There are many apps that will take advantage of 8 cores

I didn't assume anything... I said (rather clearly actually) that MOST users will never see any difference from 8 cores. And apparently you also overlooked the fact that I specifically listed high-end video work as the exception here. If you are using Maya et al you are (a) using high-end video products, and (b) are in the vast minority I mentioned.

Remember... it goes read, process, then respond. ;)
 
bought a 4-core Mac Pro

I don't think anyone posted the third Barefeats Benchmark report form April 19. Looks like the multi-threaded workflow is paying off with an 8-Core model. :)
Yes, looks nice! But, I just ordered a 2.66 4-core 4GB 1900XT Mac Pro. And, I will probably get a couple of Hitachi 7K1000 1TB drives when they are available. It should keep me happy till end of 2008 when I plan to get a Nehalem based system.
 
Well, here are mine from Cinebench:

CINEBENCH 9.5
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Processor : 8-Core Mac Pro
MHz : 3Ghz
Number of CPUs : 8
Operating System : 10.4.9

Graphics Card : 7300GT x 2
Resolution : 1900x1200
Color Depth : 32bit
****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 487 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 2304 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 4.73

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 574 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 2189 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 4431 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 7.71

****************************************************

4 x as fast as my dual 2.5 G5! ;)

Adam
 
This is very true, although the OS can help significantly when it knows it is running on a NUMA architecture machine. Even without you have an average hop number of around about 1, which is the same as the CPU <-> Chipset on the Intel equation.

I know I'm a bit late, but still :). In reality, the average hop number is less than with Intel systems. With Intel, the RAM is connected to the Northbridge, and the Nortbridge is connected to the CPU. So whenever the CPU needs to access the RAM; it goes through the Northbridge. With AMD, the RAM is directly connected to the CPU, giving AMD a lot lower memory-access latency. True, latency goes up if you access RAM that is connected to another CPU in the system. But in the same time, the bandwidth goes up. And is the latency still worse than it is with Intel? I would say that accessing RAM on another CPU is slightly slower than on Intel-systems that access RAM through Northbridge. But on the AMD-system, the bandwidth is higher.

So that's how it is on AMD-systems: As number of processors increases, the bandwidth goes up, while latency creeps up. How is it on Intel-systems? As number of CPU's increase, the per-CPU bandwidth goes down, but the latency remains the same.
 
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