8 Plus versus X Thoughts

[tonyy]

I've had my X for a little over 24 hours so its still quite early to give final impressions but heres what I noticed off the bat:

- Screen size difference. The X screen is basically a taller iPhone 7/8 screen. Coming from a 7+/8+, I miss the width. This has been my biggest adjustment so far.

- Body size. The X feels really nice in the hand. It's a welcoming change holding the X vs. the Plus models. I never had an issue with the Plus but once you hold the X, it just feels more comfortable. (This may vary on your hand size. Mine are medium so people with larger hands that find the Plus perfect will feel the X is too small.)

- Screen quality. I've never owned a Samsung OLED device so I have no previous experience. The X screen is pretty sweet. Not mind blowing like some made it out to be, in my opinion. Everything on the screen seems to "pop" out a bit more compared to my Plus.

-Face ID. Getting used to Face ID and the new gestures was a lot more intuitive than I originally thought. I figured it would take me a couple days to become familiar but it took a lot less than that. It's almost second nature about 24 hours in.

Two main problems I've encountered are I sit at a desk for work and the phone is on the desktop to the right of me. With TouchID, i can put my finger on and voila, phone is opened and I can use it. With FaceID, i physically have to pick up the phone for it to unlock. I ended up just swiping up and entering my numerical code to unlock (Yes, i have Require Attention turned off). An annoyance to say the least. Secondly, I put on my reading glasses laying in bed last night, and the phone didn't unlock with FaceID. Will FaceID learn over time?

Final thoughts: The X so far seems to be a really good phone. Lightning fast and comes with the newest features. The taller and narrower screen compared to the Plus is a negative, for me. Deal breaker? Probably not and I'm slowly getting used to it. The X feels great in the hand and fits comfortably in the pocket, you can barely feel it there. The Plus is definitely noticeable when its in my back or front pocket.

The X isn't for everybody and to be honest, I'm more excited for the bigger X Plus next year. The current X has what I always wanted from Apple, edge to edge screen. Right now, its almost there but I think i'll be really satisfied with a bigger version of what is now.

 

[iapplelove]

op you compared units in the store lol. Try the iPhone X for a weekend.

You won’t think about, Touch ID, the plus screen etc. I don’t think I’ve put mine down yet. And this is coming from a plus owner of 3 years.

 

[PBz]

I am just telling you that no one else, I mean no one else shares this same view of the camera. I am not sure if you are trying to justify buying the 8+, but something was either wrong or done wrong.

Actually opposite. Was hoping X would make it obvious. It didn’t. Like I said. Small sample but result was result. 7+ has issues so bad I went back to 6S+ but reviewers refused to touch that issue as well.. while I get a notifications constantly of a new post at Apple Support Community forums for that very issue.

 

[mazdamiata210]

Actually opposite. Was hoping X would make it obvious. It didn’t. Like I said. Small sample but result was result. 7+ has issues so bad I went back to 6S+ but reviewers refused to touch that issue as well.. while I get a notifications constantly of a new post at Apple Support Community forums for that very issue.

I like you... Check out Chris Pirillo on YouTube.

 

[bmac4]

Actually opposite. Was hoping X would make it obvious. It didn’t. Like I said. Small sample but result was result. 7+ has issues so bad I went back to 6S+ but reviewers refused to touch that issue as well.. while I get a notifications constantly of a new post at Apple Support Community forums for that very issue.

Well do what you need to do. I will take the opinions of people that take photos for a living word for it and not someone that used a demo unit in the Apple store. No offense, but that is definitely not a conclusive test.

 

[PBz]

Well do what you need to do. I will take the opinions of people that take photos for a living word for it and not someone that used a demo unit in the Apple store. No offense, but that is definitely not a conclusive test.

I specifically stated small sample.

 

[bmac4]

I specifically stated small sample.

I understand, but you acted as this made your decision.

 

[magbarn]

I am just telling you that no one else, I mean no one else shares this same view of the camera. I am not sure if you are trying to justify buying the 8+, but something was either wrong or done wrong.

I have the 8+ and bought the X to test drive. Take the same pics and then download into computer, they both look the same in wide angle shots, the 2X camera is superior on the X though. Plus the OIS finally makes the 2X lens worth to use in lower light

 

[yozh]

Both are great phones. Here's the real reasons why it's so difficult for people to choose.

The X is the first of a new generation. There will be some teething problems.
- Apps are not yet optimized for it
- Devs/Designers still learning how to use the space available (lots of weird layouts and empty spaces wasted)
- FaceID is fast, but not always as fast as muscle memory + TouchID in its final form
- New experience is great and fun
- New usage patterns also means some getting used to. I enjoy this, you may not.
- For people who like upgrading on the standard cycle - Gen 1/3G/4/5/6/7

The 8+ is the best iteration of an established design. It's the best it can possibly be for its generation.
- Apps are made for that screen
- The 16:9 screen is perfect for video
- Huge battery
- Bezels = comfortable place to hold the device
- Lower price = better value
- For people who like upgrading on the S cycle - 3GS/4S/5S/6S/7S(8)

If you prefer the X, then you are an Early Adopter. You like experiencing New things, and accepts the fact that Gen 1 issues are what they are. Being first is fun, and you enjoy experimenting with new things, and challenging status quo.

If you prefer the 8+, then you are a Power User. You like using something familiar and powerful. You like knowing that the tool you are using is as good as it can be. When the X has its bugs ironed out, and perhaps gains a larger sibling, you may even jump on that wagon - knowing full well that it's tried and tested.





I've used iPhones since 2007. And have always jumped on the Standard cycle, because I want the new new. I got a 5S once, and learned an important lesson when the 6 came out. I'm an early adopter.

My pattern:
Gen 1 -> 3G -> 4 -> 5S -> 6 -> 7+ -> X

The only deviation was 5S because I was not convinced a taller screen, in 5, was enough of an upgrade, everything else being mostly equal to the 4. When I went to 6 to 7+, it was also driven by the need to experience something new, the phablet form. Which turns out to be something I love, and got used to immediately. This was surprising because I was always for the smaller sizes.

I would agree with most of what you said, but I would disagree with X being established as a regular release, while I did slow down with 7, I was on every single iPhone from day one, except for 3G(got it about week in). I had every single iPhone and used it daily from 2007, I did not have iPhone 6+, I stopped at 7, since 6S 128Gb was more then same and was not ready to give up headphone jack yet... 8 came out and I bought it at 3:02am as I did with X. And honestly I`m not only disappointed, I`m angry, either this phone shouldn't of been released, or they should of stopped with 7S(less redesign) and spent more time on this X phone. Honestly I see this as a slapped together last minute project to get hardware working, the screen for use as a phone in any way is just unacceptable, its like using a regular none Plus model, but with even more compromised, the ears are not only useless, they are annoying. The notch while I really try not to pay attention to it, its just there, its ALWAYS there! The bar on the bottom has to be redesigned for all the apps, as of now I cant watch any video apps where it properly goes away, and if it does then leaving landscape mode is a memory problem.... The unlock screen is just a chore now... Battery slide, unlock slide, but wait slide only from the bottom .... I`m using it, and I want to get used to it, but I come home and pick up my 8 Plus and I`m enjoying it, I could use some of those gestures and they are enjoyable to use at times, but at others are clunky....

This X is probably going back, I will use it for few more, but I`m angry, like going to android angry, there needs to be an X Plus model to make it at least wider, people are accepting it and using it, but in reality only benefit as of now are gestures and possible Face ID, for which Touch ID should still be there...

 

[PBz]

I have the 8+ and bought the X to test drive. Take the same pics and then download into computer, they both look the same in wide angle shots, the 2X camera is superior on the X though. Plus the OIS finally makes the 2X lens worth to use in lower light

Yes. Zoom on 7+ and to an extent on 8+ is worthless IMO.
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Yes. Zoom on 7+ and to an extent on 8+ is worthless IMO.

i should elaborate. For large objects like a flower or sign in good light the zoom is OK. For images of kids or people.. worthless.

 

[bmac4]

I have the 8+ and bought the X to test drive. Take the same pics and then download into computer, they both look the same in wide angle shots, the 2X camera is superior on the X though. Plus the OIS finally makes the 2X lens worth to use in lower light

Yep, that is what every thing I have seen says. The X camera is just slightly better.

 

[cshk9574]

having had both phones for 3 days and playing with it, going back and forth throughout the day. I returned the X today. For me like some prefer the zoom feature which is a huge setting I need. I understand the screen on the X is technically bigger...but usable screen for me and what I use X doesn't work for me. While I was at the apple store, there were 2 more guys returning for the exact same reason. X is not for everyone. If I had young eyes, I would definitely be all over the X. I got used to FACEID quickly and was successful most of the time. I did enjoy the compact factor of the phone and the screen quality, but not enough to keep it. For me, the 8 plus fit's my needs better than the X. Side note....but even the apple employee said her and most of her store's staff is going to wait before getting. Heard they get a special deal on the X for employees.

 

[PBz]

Screenshot from MobileTechReview.

Viewing angle?

 

[mazdamiata210]

Screenshot from MobileTechReview.

Viewing angle?

Plus wins.

 

[PBz]

Plus wins.

Seemingly in several ways.

 

[mazdamiata210]

Seemingly in several ways.

But we're crazy. No way LCD is better than OLED

 

[PBz]

More. Seriously. Is this real?
I mean.. OLED known for deep blacks.. diminishing returns?
[doublepost=1510108285][/doublepost]In fairness, I like the X screen color better in bottom image.

 

[magbarn]

That’s pathetic in the screen pics. I️ also noticed the blacks aren’t really solid blacks either. The X is going to be as polarizing as the trash can nMPs and the touchbar MBPs of last year.

 

[PBz]

That’s pathetic in the screen pics. I️ also noticed the blacks aren’t really solid blacks either. The X is going to be as polarizing as the trash can nMPs and the touchbar MBPs of last year.

If you’re brave search forums for my debacle on 2016/2017 MBP. Multiple failed keyboards. Test left running on repaired machine. New/custom replacement 2017 failed on first startup. I’m with a 2015 refurb MBP now. I have no issues waiting or going back. Left the 7+ for 6S+

I’m a VERY big fan of Apple.. but I hold them accountable to a standard ..that they establish.

 

[yozh]

If you’re brave search forums for my debacle on 2016/2017 MBP. Multiple failed keyboards. Test left running on repaired machine. New/custom replacement 2017 failed on first startup. I’m with a 2015 refurb MBP now. I have no issues waiting or going back. Left the 7+ for 6S+

I’m a VERY big fan of Apple.. but I hold them accountable to a standard ..that they establish.

Me too, I was disappointed with MBP with touchbar and still didnt upgrade from my 2012, and this X is just a slap in the face, I feel like Apple just stopped being Apple. This phone was not completed PERIOD. This hardware is just amazing, but this implementation is a disgrace beyond any standards. Im typing this on the X and Im seriously wishing I did it on the 8 plus

 

[Leonard1818]

Thanks for the input on this. I like reading folks comparisons.