Is the 9600M GT a big improvement over the 8600M GT? I saw benchmarks but I want to know in real-life if the figures still stand true.
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8600M GT vs. 9600M GT?
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What are the problems in the new unibodies I keep reading about...I could have sworn it was GPU related.
I thought they were both defective.
No, I didn't. It's beginning to fail now. I'm getting it replaced as soon as possible.
Obviously for yet ANOTHER defective chip, but...
The new one obviously performs better. Was it even a question?
The 9400M is worse than the 8600M which is worse than the 9600M, but not by much, other than the defective nature of the 8600M.
Not all the 8600M GT's are defective. Only about 20% of them, and almost all of those were used in the earlier makes of the early 2008 models or the summer 2007 models.
The difference isn't huge, but it's there. The 9600M GT isn't a complete redo of the chip, but more of a beefed up 8600M GT, both higher clocked speed, more pipelines, and faster shaders, but this doesn't give a massive improvement and also creates more heat and less battery energy. By the FPS of certain games, and what others have said here, it is a 10-15% difference at most in performance between the 8600M GT and 9600M GT.
lmao no one even tried to answer the OP's question
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
look at that site and compare any notebook graphics card to any other based on 3dmark tests
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
look at that site and compare any notebook graphics card to any other based on 3dmark tests
What TSE sounds accurate, I have a 2.2 ghz santa rosa mbp w/ 128mb v ram 8600m GT, for a year now with absolutely no video related issues. Of course now that I said this, I'll have to replace my mbp for video issues.
I heard a rumor that the 9600m's have the same issue as the 8600m.
But as stated above, of course the 9600m will perform better than the 8600m... why else would they make it the next step up if it wasn't better?
And I think Tallest Skil was just being realistic, not avoiding the question... lol
I heard a rumor that the 9600m's have the same issue as the 8600m.
But as stated above, of course the 9600m will perform better than the 8600m... why else would they make it the next step up if it wasn't better?
And I think Tallest Skil was just being realistic, not avoiding the question... lol
What about it?
Probably that since 10.6 will be using the GPU for non GPU related tasks, the new mbp's will benefit from having two additional CPUs (in theory). The old mbp's only have the 8600m and a disabled X3100... So snow leopard will only have two CPUs instead of three.
Sorry for any lack of clarity in sentence structure, I'm still not use to typing on my iPod.
No... I'm not referring to SLI at all, not when it comes to graphics. I'm talking about Open CL and the fact that it is going to use the GPU for non GPU related tasks. I'm assuming that it will take advantage of both the 9600m and 9400m. I guess since it is hybrid SLI it can only use one at a time (even with Open CL), I'm not sure, I'm not a programmer. I know that SLI needs to have two of the same exact graphics cards to use both at the same time. I'm referring to Open CL using the GPU's, I guess it can't use them both at the same time, I don't work for Apple.
And Timish, yes, the GMA X3100 is built into the chipset in the MBP Santa Rosa's, the Intel 965 chipset. I stumbled across this fact using a program called Everest in Windows. Everest tells you everything about your computer and its hardware. I saw that it had info on the 8600m (the dedicated Video Card) and an integrated that read:
Integrated video card: X3100
Status: Disabled
They cannot use hybrid SLI with this video card because Intel does not do SLI, that's an nVidia thing. For ATI it's called Crossfire (I believe).
The first MBP had the Napa chipset, with an integrated GMA 950 GPU and the ATI dedicated card, disabled GMA 950.
The next revision had the Santa Rosa chipset, with an integrated GMA X3100 and the nVidia dedicated card, disabled GMA X3100
The latest revision is not an Intel chipset as many know, it's an nVidia chipset. The integrated is the 9400m and the dedicated the 9600m GT, both enabled as everyone knows using hybrid SLI.
I think Patrik meant SL as Snow Leopard.
That's crazy about the disabled X3100.
I know it's part of GM965 but I am surprised Apple didn't get a customized version.
Cool, you learn something new everyday.
That's crazy about the disabled X3100.
I know it's part of GM965 but I am surprised Apple didn't get a customized version.
Cool, you learn something new everyday.
No... I'm not referring to SLI at all, not when it comes to graphics. I'm talking about Open CL and the fact that it is going to use the GPU for non GPU related tasks. I'm assuming that it will take advantage of both the 9600m and 9400m. I guess since it is hybrid SLI it can only use one at a time (even with Open CL), I'm not sure, I'm not a programmer. I know that SLI needs to have two of the same exact graphics cards to use both at the same time. I'm referring to Open CL using the GPU's, I guess it can't use them both at the same time, I don't work for Apple.
And Timish, yes, the GMA X3100 is built into the chipset in the MBP Santa Rosa's, the Intel 965 chipset. I stumbled across this fact using a program called Everest in Windows. Everest tells you everything about your computer and its hardware. I saw that it had info on the 8600m (the dedicated Video Card) and an integrated that read:
Integrated video card: X3100
Status: Disabled
They cannot use hybrid SLI with this video card because Intel does not do SLI, that's an nVidia thing. For ATI it's called Crossfire (I believe).
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What he meant was, 'Assuming it wasn't defective, which is better (i.e. faster)?
Tallest Skil said:
What he meant was, 'Assuming it wasn't defective, which is better (i.e. faster)?
Yes, I meant Snow Leopard. You make it sound as if you will have a second processor, but that will hardly be the case. It will not really add too much power unless you blow out your processor regularly, which not many people do as the 2.4 - 2.9 or w/e the 17" is is pretty damn powerful.
I personally don't expect much from Open CL and I think that it's exaggerated.
Apologies, and this whole time I thought you just forgot the I in SLI hahaha. Well I guess I'm being optimistic, but you can't blame for Apple has some amazing software engineers. In my opinion anyway. I was more over talking about how Open CL will lessen the load from the CPU to the GPU if needed.