I see no rumors. I see uninformed opinions from people who have NO idea what apple is going to do when they finally do release the new mac pros.
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8800GTS 512MB (G92) vs 8800GTX OMG!
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I see no rumors. I see uninformed opinions from people who have NO idea what apple is going to do when they finally do release the new mac pros.
Uninformed opinions?
No, I totally disagree.
I'd say some are well thought out educated guesses.
Stoakley, Seaburg, and Harpertown are just about guarantees even though Apple has yet to mention any of them.
It is also a good educated guess that the Mac Pro will have one or more of the following three video cards in it: 8800 GT, HD3850, and/or HD3870.
3870 in crossfire looks like a winner.
Your 3850 in crossfire beats the GTX.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/605/1/
I'll see what I can do next year.3870 in crossfire looks like a winner.
Your 3850 in crossfire beats the GTX.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/605/1/
I might see a GPU upgrade long before a CPU one.
Here it is...8800 GTS 512MB (G92)
A German web site jumped the gun and is offering an ASUS 8800 GTS 512MB (G92) for sale.
I have no chance but this is the video card I would most want to see in the next Mac Pro.
Well, I would rather have the 8800 GTX but that is not being realistic.
nVidia will take the page down but until then here it is:
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/a299368.html
A German web site jumped the gun and is offering an ASUS 8800 GTS 512MB (G92) for sale.
I have no chance but this is the video card I would most want to see in the next Mac Pro.
Well, I would rather have the 8800 GTX but that is not being realistic.
nVidia will take the page down but until then here it is:
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/a299368.html
The answer is more apparant if you take into account what size monitor those MacPros are hooked up to. If the resolustion is greater than 1900x1200 it would be more prudent to use a GTX/Ultra as they are faster due to more bandwidth.
You are right, that is stupid on my part.
For some reason I was thinking (wrongly) that the 8800 GTX is better at higher resolutions.
hmm. It will be interesting to see when more benchtesting come out.
Here is a tool to check differences between cards (GTS isn't there yet though but the GT OC is). The interesting part is the lack of resolutions above 1920x1200, yet the G80 is still faster than the G92. Of course if you aren't into high quality then it doesn't matter, but if you are already spending 2.5k for a computer spending an extra 100 bucks on a video card shouldn't be that big of a deal. Although the rumor mill is saying that the high end G9x cards should be coming out in Februrary. I also hope the next Mac Pro comes with two true 16x PCIe lanes and support for SLI/Crossfire.
Is this the old "I use my Mac Pro for gaming at 1920 x 1200 / 2560 x 1600" or it can run Aperture, Motion and other professional applications much faster statement?'
As the Mac as a gaming platform have failed to materialize I hope you mean the latter, in which case the new Geforce 8800 GTS 512MB will be faster.
It would be a no-brainer for Apple.
Faster, while being cheaper and consuming less power.
I would hope Apple would want to have the faster card available, regardless of in what sense it should be used. I personally think the I don't game at that resolution so it doesn't matter argument is weaksauce. Besides has it been proven that Aperture, motion and other pro apps are noticably faster with a GTS vs a GTX? I mean if you are using games as your benchmark for speed in that realm you may want to use the most demanding situation versus the most convenient.Ultimately Apple should just have Nvidia/Ati make the drivers for the cards so that any card made would work in a Mac. Apple would never sell "mac compatible" cards at a comparable price to the "non-mac compatible" price.
I didn't realize it but the HD3870 x2 in January is not HD3870 in crossfire.
It is two RV670XT chips on one board.
Just wondering out loud... if Apple puts an HD3870 in the new Mac Pro, could that driver be used to flash an HD3870 x2 card?
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20071219PD206.html
I don't seem why that would come as a surprise. It have been known for quite some time now that the R680 was in fact two RV670 chips on a single board.
Also one of the reasons for CrossfireX support coming out in the January timeframe.
If you did that chances are you would only be able to see one chip on the board. If it worked at all.
It would help if I knew how to read.
I've been reading the R680 articles right from the get-go but for some reason I kept thinking they meant crossfire.
If they are on a single board, why do they need CrossfireX? My guess is to connect with other R680 video cards.
That's too bad because I am quite sure the new Mac Pro will not have an R680 video card.
It would help if I knew how to read.
I've been reading the R680 articles right from the get-go but for some reason I kept thinking they meant crossfire.
That's too bad because I am quite sure the new Mac Pro will not have an R680 video card.
Actually, it may see both cards, maybe. It uses a PCIe bridge for the cards to communicate with one another, and with the north bridge. So in theory it should show up as two separate cards. The real question is if CF works in OS X.
I am trying to find out if the 7950GX2 shows up as two cards in Windows, because that is basically what ATI is doing.
All I'm hoping for is a supported GPU in the Mac mini by the time Starcraft 2 comes out.
This is assuming two things:
- the Mac mini (or something similar) still exists when Starcraft 2 comes out.
- Apple put a decent GPU in it (at least the minimum required for SC2)
I just bought a Core 2 Duo Mac mini, and given Blizzard's usual timeframes, I'd say I have time to upgrade again before SC2 comes out.
This is assuming two things:
- the Mac mini (or something similar) still exists when Starcraft 2 comes out.
- Apple put a decent GPU in it (at least the minimum required for SC2)
I just bought a Core 2 Duo Mac mini, and given Blizzard's usual timeframes, I'd say I have time to upgrade again before SC2 comes out.
Yeah, it basically means you will be able to use four Radeon 3800 series cards or two R680 cards in CrossfireX. The R680 is also a Crossfire on the board solution, where both GPUs speak with eachother over an onboard PCI-Express chip.
R700 is supposed to be made up of more chips (around 300 million transistors each) so they need to learn how to optimize their drivers for multicore environments.
Don't know how well CrossfireX will scale but I am sure it will only matter to a very miniscule percentage of the market anyway.