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8GB iPhone Price Drop, 4GB iPhone Discontinued
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Still worth $600
For all of us who waited in line to be the first to get one we got what we asked for. A sweet phone that is still the envy of the cell phone world.
Ok so they reduced the price. If I had the opportunity to do this again I would have played my cards the same way I played them now.
I was one of the first to have an iPhone and I still swear it was worth the 6 bills I paid for it.
IT'S TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE!! IT ALWAYS GETS BETTER/FASTER/OUTDATED AND CHEAPER TOO.
We have the best phones on the market. What more can we ask for (besides a larger size iPod touch
)??
For all of us who waited in line to be the first to get one we got what we asked for. A sweet phone that is still the envy of the cell phone world.
Ok so they reduced the price. If I had the opportunity to do this again I would have played my cards the same way I played them now.
I was one of the first to have an iPhone and I still swear it was worth the 6 bills I paid for it.
IT'S TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE!! IT ALWAYS GETS BETTER/FASTER/OUTDATED AND CHEAPER TOO.
We have the best phones on the market. What more can we ask for (besides a larger size iPod touch
)??International sales
This reminds me of asking the US Iphone community whether purchasing the Iphone from an Apple store can be purchased outright without AT & T activation. I am aware of the potential limited use in Australia(at this point) Please advise.
Roman
This reminds me of asking the US Iphone community whether purchasing the Iphone from an Apple store can be purchased outright without AT & T activation. I am aware of the potential limited use in Australia(at this point) Please advise.
Roman
every business has plans to decrease their products AHEAD OF TIME at a certain date. are all businesses ripoffs? apple introduces a new imac knowing full well that they plan to reduce the price somewhere down the road. are the imacs ripoffs? did apple rip me off because they knew in advance that they would be reducing the price on the imac?
it seems there are two main things troubling people: 1. the timing of the price reduction and 2. the amount of the price reduction. in the first matter, i do not know when the best time to decrease the price would be...6 months later? 9 months? sure, apple has waited X amount of days or months on average with many of their computers. but the iphone is a very new and, i argue, a very different business plan than the macs and even the ipods. though surprising, i don't feel as though it's worthy of condemnation. we're surprised b/c it's new, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
on the second point, would people be less irate if the price reduction were $50? how about $100? so is it the fact that it was reduced AT ALL, or just the size of the reduction? from what i've been reading, it's the latter. once again, it's a business decision. the iphones had to be closer in price to the new ipod touch or it would have been more difficult to persuade people that the iphone was a good deal.
i'm not saying people shouldn't feel upset that they spent $200 more...i'd love to spend $200 less on anything any chance i get. what bothers me is that people feel like they got "ripped off" by apple and that they can't trust apple and that they deserve something from apple. come on. stop whining!
do you think AMEX will shell out $200,000+ of their own money?
I kind of doubt it.
More than likely Apple will pay for it. It's also possibly that they will split it.
BS. You just distort my point. You clearly don't read my posts thoroughly. I'm not upset I fall behind 14 days grace period. I'm upset all the million people Apple whored are not qualified for some minimal fair grace. Got it?
Do you think I'd bitch about it if the iPhone was around a good few months in the market and just a time of an update I'd get it and "miss" on the price cut? Hell no. All my Apple products were purchased that way. It's just the iPhone that I'd never expect to do the same, especially when it's so f early.
Additionally I'm upset because Apple committed a major price murder. Why hasn't it started with a lower price initially? It's not just a cut of fifty or a hundred bucks, again, while the product is still in the time span of being "early adopting". So find a better argument.
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it's actions like this that turned hackers against microsoft. Apple thread softly. As of today you're on very very thin ice
it's actions like this that turned hackers against microsoft. Apple thread softly. As of today you're on very very thin ice
Whatever.
Obviously one millions buyers of iPhone don't make a fraction of the voters from dozens of millions of people from all over the world, including a whopping population in N. America and europe of Apple fans and general public that expects the iPhone. Obviously they will vastly agree it's great news, because the price of the iPhone now is affordable. Not all the million buyers like myself are now visiting online forums and bitching. Even then it'd account to a zilch. But sure enough, if you look at the voting on this decision here on MACRUMORS.com, you'll find the well over half, or about 60% of the members voted against it.
It's hypocrisy to say it's a fair move, without any minimal attention to those million people paying an experimental high price for the past two months.
Whatever.
I own a 4G iPhone and I am by far more outrageous than an 8GB one. I paid MORE for half the capacity. I purchased it just recently and didn't fall into this blind 14 days grace period while buyers of today, who aren't different than me in any way, will be enjoying a double-capacity and for less the pay. 8G owners of "ancient" 60 days ago are still enjoying a non obsolete device. Got it hot shot?
First, Apple said that they would sell one million by the end of this month, so I don't think that one million people have purchased yet and could complain.
Second, you know, obsolete does not mean that it can't be used anymore.
What do you mean by "blind 14 days grace period"? Did you not know about the policy? Is it not on the receipt? Could you not have asked a sales rep?
Also, who was it that was twisting your arm when you bought your phone? Steve Jobs? Phil Schiller? You made the choice to purchase a particular product, at a particular time, at a particular price. Now, who are you upset with because it turns out you could have gotten more for your money a little bit in the future? Find a mirror, and you will find the person to blame.
I wish I could understand what you're trying to say in this sentence, because it's hilarious.
If you're not happy about Apple's current pricing scheme, compared with how it was when you agreed to buy your phone, then I would recommend exercising your right as a consumer and taking your business elsewhere...
Really? You think that Apple is going to pay for it? On what info/law/policy do you base that claim?
Also, you might want to check out this link to a USA Today interview with Jobs. Here is the relevant portion:
Q: What do you say to customers who just bought a new iPhone for $599? Sorry?
A: That's technology. If they bought it this morning, they should go back to where they bought it and talk to them. If they bought it a month ago, well, that's what happens in technology.
You still think Apple is going to pay for this?
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If anyone is angry about this, there is a petition you can sign.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/i...ion/index.html
It is worth a show. I know technology prices change, but this seems like Apple simply ripping off those who are so loyal to their company.
"ripping off?" how exactly are they ripping you off? because they lowered the price on something? did they give you a product that they claimed to be one thing but was really something else? how exactly did they "rip you off?"
Yeah. That's not a rip off. It's a f back stab.
Apple clearly exposed that their original high-price was a deliberate experiment of market reception. As it was obviously successful, they just went on and shamelessly murdered the price after a mere 60 days from first time ever release (60 days minus 14 days for the real screwed over "earlier adopters").
The reason people talk smack about "earlier adopters" who rightfully bitch, are hypocrites. They are now able to consider an iPhone and basically get one and we all know that on the 61st day of release, you'll still be an "early adopters". That's what we get for being "early adopters", we get to have more early adopters that get cheaper for bigger iPhones. You guys aren't using brand new technology or something else. The iPhone hasn't been around for months and months now. It's not like the price has been seeing a tiring market. The iPhone just came out, freaks, why would you bash people who demand reimbursement? Why are you against them?
This other dolt on another post compared this situation to a story of buying a DVD for $35 and shortly before the price went down to $15. Wow. That's so parallel. "Early adopters" - shut up you whining babies Lolz!1!"
Exactly. You should have bought any of the other phones out there with a built-in music player that works with the #1 online music store, syncs flawlessly with your PC, has a touch interface, web browser, etc. Wait, that's right; there were no others. You bought the only product that matches that description, and that's exactly why you bought, regardless of the price.
Although this post wasn't intended for me, I'd say Jobs sounds like his own distortion field hit him up way too bad. So in that false logic, and a rather up the ass one, there's no point to buy anything at least a month and a half after something was released to public. The whole point of releasing something is pointless and essentially a trap for idiots who don't know that in a month from now everything will be half and devices will progress to meet contemporary increasing demand.
Right... "reduce" (more like murder) the prices because demand is high. Hey, that's technology. We've been seeing the same god damn iPhone for sixty ****ing days.
Any idea if charges will be filed in this "murder"?
Actually, I'm sure that there are plenty of buyers and lawyers out there already getting ready for their class-action lawsuits, along the same lines as the battery lawsuits:
"Apple, Inc. failed to adequately inform members of the class that the price of the iPhone would decrease, the amount by which it would decrease, and the date on which it would decrease, thereby causing members of the class financial loss and immense embarrassment for being such dumba$$es. Members of the class seek a refund of the difference between the price they paid and the lowest price at which the iPhone will ever be sold, as well as punitive damages. The members of the class also request that all future products sold by Apple, Inc. carry the following warning label, prominently displayed on the packaging: The price of the product contained in this packaging may decrease by any amount (perhaps substantial), at any time, for any reason. You are encouraged not to purchase this product at the current price."
and when they bought that dud for $599 they gave Apple the confidence to drop the price even further, cuz if they can buy it for $599 they'll be all over it for $399 ... hit the holiday season with the bang eh!
so you guys also did a great service to us europeans and the late buyers. look at the bright side guys ..
(I still think its a dud for $399, but the hacker community has really started to tempt me .. I might get iPod touch .. it has all the best of iPhone has much better UI (the reflective dock instead of that metallic grill) and black trim instead of that chrome and decent shiny back. plus I really can't justify $100 for the phone and sms functionality (edge,stock,maps and weather are uselss for me))
so you guys also did a great service to us europeans and the late buyers. look at the bright side guys ..
(I still think its a dud for $399, but the hacker community has really started to tempt me .. I might get iPod touch .. it has all the best of iPhone has much better UI (the reflective dock instead of that metallic grill) and black trim instead of that chrome and decent shiny back. plus I really can't justify $100 for the phone and sms functionality (edge,stock,maps and weather are uselss for me))
Yielding towards 1 million.
Obsolete. Not in that sense. But discontinued 60 days after release? and knowing that whoever chose it basically paid more for half the capacity? Again, we're talking about the first 45 days of this product ever seeing the world. Imagine if the Xbox360 dropped the Core system after 60 days and have the premium version be significantly cheaper. That's utter BS.
I am very well aware of this policy. And like I said, legally Apple owes me jack. But ethically, which attracts all the dissing in the forum, they owe me the difference, or at least exchange it. If another company did it, they'd be rightfully getting hell. And I am an Apple fan promoter speaking.
I loved the last sentence. The classic indirect sting. Ooh, I loved it. But I looked at myself in the mirror and I didn't find out the person to blame. Phill Schiller and Steve Jobs didn't twist my arm. I got the iPhone at my own choice. It's the sudden death mode that came out of nowhere. There is a certain life expectancy you get with technology and especially Apple products, that are TYPICALLY long term investment. Sure, there are flopps every once in a while, but none, especially extremely successful products simply disappear after 60 days with a price cut derangement that exposes a "**** you first 45 days suckers". You don't just whore around prices in such a short time span. It's irresponsible and unprofessional. Of course the rest of humanity isn't going to care, because they didn't get raped. People rightfully feel ripped off.
Right.
2:43 am in the morning and I have to get up to work tomorrow.
I'm furious with Apple. With Steve Jobs waving off that possibility for a reimbursement so arrogantly with "that's technology", I am doubtful they'll come up with any graceful plan. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and then time will tell how much this has hurt my loyalty. As it is now, I'd smash the living slime of my 4G and ask to replace it, with the "only available" 8G.
Not before I second guess my respects to Apple.
2:43 am in the morning and I have to get up to work tomorrow.
I'm furious with Apple. With Steve Jobs waving off that possibility for a reimbursement so arrogantly with "that's technology", I am doubtful they'll come up with any graceful plan. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and then time will tell how much this has hurt my loyalty. As it is now, I'd smash the living slime of my 4G and ask to replace it, with the "only available" 8G.
Not before I second guess my respects to Apple.
You should not feel so bad; you got the special "slime" version. The slime feature has been cut from the new, price-reduced iPhones. Who would have thought that the reason for the high cost of the iPhone was slime, not flash chips or the screen. Apparently, Apple was unable to work out a long-term deal with its slime suppliers for all the cheap slime it could put into its products, the way it did with its flash suppliers. Go figure.
Cheers.
Supply and demand were up the roof for the iPhone in the past 60 days. So how does that comply with your stance? It should then been more expensive, cause there's extreme demand for it. Sure a price cut, but not a sudden death mode of 200$ after two months. You know, there's some market rules and pricing guidelines to follow. Sheer chaos of pricing isn't Capitalism.
Hmm... so I guess I paid $100/month "early adopter tax" for my iPhone
The thing is, I felt it was worth $600 back in July, so I paid my money and enjoyed the heck out of using it for the past 2 months. I knew it would drop in price, just as I knew a newer and better version might ship before the holiday season. Such is life at the bleeding edge of technology (another reason I've generally avoided buying 1st generation tech products).
Now, if Apple was smart, they would offer early purchasers something... Apple (or iTunes) Gift Card, discount on iPhone accessories, free Applecare, whatever.
I suppose I'll see if AMEX will stand behind their Return Protection program (after all, $200 is still $200), but even if I can't get the money back, I don't see that there's anything to be angry about.
People really need to take a deep breath and get some perspective.
The thing is, I felt it was worth $600 back in July, so I paid my money and enjoyed the heck out of using it for the past 2 months. I knew it would drop in price, just as I knew a newer and better version might ship before the holiday season. Such is life at the bleeding edge of technology (another reason I've generally avoided buying 1st generation tech products).
Now, if Apple was smart, they would offer early purchasers something... Apple (or iTunes) Gift Card, discount on iPhone accessories, free Applecare, whatever.
I suppose I'll see if AMEX will stand behind their Return Protection program (after all, $200 is still $200), but even if I can't get the money back, I don't see that there's anything to be angry about.
People really need to take a deep breath and get some perspective.
Looking at the price points, Apple needed to decrease the price of the iPhone to stay competitive with their other offerings (see attached pic) and the cell phone market, whether fair or not.
This happens all the time in technology related areas. This is not the first nor the last time where a company makes significant reductions in price points. Companies are there to make a profit. They are not non-profit. The price reduction is needed to stay competitive through the holiday market.
Remember, when Apple introduced the iPhone, just like the original iPod, they did not know if their business model would hold true. Revenues from sales have to balance out R&D costs and other capital expenditures to create and produce the iPhone. Now that the iPhone is selling well and desirable, Apple can change the manufacturing flow whereby saving even more on manufacturing costs.
I would suggest that you get over this point before you give yourself an aneurysm.
FWIW, many of us have experienced the same situation with technology related purchases. It has happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future.
A few years ago one of my technology purchases had something similar happen. In my case, the price difference was over $1,500. But life goes on. Enjoy the iPhone regardless of the price that you paid for it. After all, no one forced you to buy it.
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