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8GB iPhone Price Drop, 4GB iPhone Discontinued

diamond.g said:
um, poster was inferring that they were gonna pirate 10.5.
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I read the post again and I guess I can see this, although it would have made more sense under your intepretation if the poster had capped "PAYING" instead of "WON'T".

I guess I also missed it because my first thought when I read something like this is not about stealing.
 
Richardlol said:
The day you bought your iPhone you made a $2160.00 commitment. The Phone plus two years of service, one is no good without the other.

Now that price has dropped to $1960.00. What's the big deal?
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Most people were paying that $60/month phone bill anyway, so that doesn't really apply to your argument. It's kinda like saying that a wife has had sex 10,000 times with her husband, and only one affair, so she's still 99.99% faithful.
 
Its funny that I was scorned yesterday in this very thread for dumping my AAPL stock... what's even funnier is that it is down over $9 since the announcement...
 
Manic Mouse said:
Since when did phones reach their EOL in three months? My K810i is more than 3 months old, but it's still top of the range.
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No it's not. It was replaced by the k850 last month. That is the nature of the market. My current nokia dropped by 200 euro two weeks after I bought it at launch.
 
~J~ said:
Its funny that I was scorned yesterday in this very thread for dumping my AAPL stock... what's even funnier is that it is down over $9 since the announcement...
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I know.. I've been checking google finance since the announcement and I do feel a certain bit of satisfaction that Steve's bonehead move is coming out of his pocket right now. We'll just have to see how it performs long term when the dust settles..
 
~J~ said:
Its funny that I was scorned yesterday in this very thread for dumping my AAPL stock... what's even funnier is that it is down over $9 since the announcement...
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Great, now you pay pay capital gains tax on your capital gains. :)

Yesterday was a down market day for most stocks. Apple stock will bounce back in the long run.
 
sushi said:
Great, now you pay pay capital gains tax on your capital gains. :)

Yesterday was a down market day for most stocks. Apple stock will bounce back in the long run.
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A small price to pay to prove my point to Apple. And I do hope it rebounds... and I believe it will. But this has two great effects:

1. On a day that was supposed to be HUGE for Apple in this holiday season, it has been tarnished by slapping a big fan base in the face. Apple will learn the lesson, or not have very successful new product launches in the future.

2. Once they remedy this situation, everyone will regain confidence in the company. As soon as I hear that, I will but a buy on AAPL stock for less than I sold it for yesterday, and when it climbs back up to where it was before or higher... money is made. I will recoup the cost... but that is not the point.

This is not about the $200... its about the principle of their actions. I am disappointed in what they did to the loyal fans who supported them, knowing there would be bugs in the product, they all went out and bought it anyway... knowing Apple would take care of them. That confidence is lost now, and I dont see that happening in the future. Sorry Apple, but you did it to yourselves. How sad its going to be when no one goes out and buys a new product for a few months after its launch...
 
SthrnCmfrtr said:
Most people were paying that $60/month phone bill anyway, so that doesn't really apply to your argument. It's kinda like saying that a wife has had sex 10,000 times with her husband, and only one affair, so she's still 99.99% faithful.
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WOW!!! Lucky guy! 10,000 times? That's impressive. That's an average of about once a day every day for more than 27 years.
 
~J~ said:
Sorry Apple, but you did it to yourselves. How sad its going to be when no one goes out and buys a new product for a few months after its launch...
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Do you really believe that this is going to happen? That no one is going to buy new Apple products at launch because of a fear of price drops? I think that most of the world knows that this kind of stuff happens, and they buy anyway. Trust me, the day that Leopard is released, Apple stores will be packed. Big parties. It will happen. And people are going to buy the iPod Touch like crazy too, even if the price might go down after Christmas.
 
slffl said:
Yeah because everything else Apple sells drop 40% in a few months right? Idiot.

What if you went and bought a 15" Powerbook somewhere, new, and it was 40% the next day? I take it you would be jumping for joy?
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No, they usually don't. But its been going around for weeks and i think even when it came out that it would drop in price very quickly.

If you felt the need to rush down to the store and drop $600 on a phone, a PHONE, then i laugh at you're over zealous attitude. Its not my fault you have to have the coolest new toy out there. Wow you waited in line for 3 days for a PS3?!! you're my hero! You paid $1200 on ebay for a xbox 360? WHAT A DEAL!!

People should have waited a few weeks and got one. Instead they sat in-front of the TV, or computer mouth open, eyes glazed over at all the hype of the iphone.

If i bought a 15" powerbook and it was 40% cheaper (i think you meant to say?) the next day i would call apple. Now that is considering that i didn't take the few seconds to see if they we're going to drop the price, or up the specs on them in the days to come. And odds are good if i was polite to the rep he or she would probably give me that 40% credit. Which i would take and go buy a $300 iphone :D Idiot
 
Regardless of whether anyone deserves anything or not...

I just think that Apple missed a huge opportunity to turn this whole story into a legendary customer service example. Just like when they told us they were giving all of their employees iPhones, everyone thought that was amazing. Instead this whole negative thing has overshadowed the news about all of the great products they released yesterday. This price drop could have looked like this:

"because the iPhone is the best rated product we've ever sold, we want more people to experience it, so we are upping production and lowering the price by $200. We want an iPhone in the hands of everyone. And for those who already own iPhones we are giving you a $200 credit to the new wifi iTunes store to celebrate its launch"

Then really not that many people would bitch, we'd all think Steve was a Saint. We'd all be buying stuff on wifi iTunes and figuring out their glitches, and showing everyone how cool mobile itunes is, blah blah blah.
 
The complainers should come to the UK. We pay a $200 premium on every Apple product ;)

btw. I think Apple may come up with something to appease some of the bad feeling that's come out of this.
 
RHutch said:
Do you really believe that this is going to happen? That no one is going to buy new Apple products at launch because of a fear of price drops? I think that most of the world knows that this kind of stuff happens, and they buy anyway. Trust me, the day that Leopard is released, Apple stores will be packed. Big parties. It will happen. And people are going to buy the iPod Touch like crazy too, even if the price might go down after Christmas.
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Software is different. And its the holiday season, which changes all the rules (people will pay THOUSANDS for what would normally be a $50 toy). So, yes, I do believe that. I'm not saying NO ONE will go out and buy new products. But we see this already, people wait to buy because they think an update is coming, or a price drop is in the near future. People are waiting to buy a new mac until Leopard comes out... this alone proves my point.
 
pixlnet said:
Right...some people just don't know business. The fact of the matter is this - I paid 499 for a 4 gb COMPUTER DEVICE (no its not just a phone, it's a handheld computer. It's insured as a handheld computer! It's competition is something called a Pocket PC!). Now I can't sell it on Craiglist for more than $299. Worst of all is the damn thing is discontinued.....I bought it 5 weeks ago. Who the hell does that? When you buy a car, the next year when a new one comes out you don't expect to get nothing for it. It is supposed to retain its value. Sure it will depreciate, but not 35 or 40% in two months. Sorry, I don't even think Dell Computers depreciate like that!

This is the first time I've seen Apple REALLY blow the resale value on a product. The people who say well you were prepared to pay that much forget about the thing supposed to hold value. Even Powerbooks retained their value when the Intel notebooks came out.

If Apple doesn't take care of this mess I know A LOT of people WON'T be paying for Leopard, including myself.
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Finally, someone understand the market. I love how people have come on here to insult people with legitimate complaints, and CLAIM to know about the market. As my father and I both work in investment banking, I can assure you, this price drown on new technology that is essentially listed as a handheld computer (NOT a smartPHONE), and not subsidized by any carrier, is ludicrous and insulting to the customers who purchased this phone 60 days ago and made it a success for Apple.

Shame on Apple.
 
emotion said:
The complainers should come to the UK. We pay a $200 premium on every Apple product ;)

btw. I think Apple may come up with something to appease some of the bad feeling that's come out of this.
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So we should get everything first as we pay more :p
Sept. 25 is in my calendar :D :apple:

EDIT: Something funny mentioning iPhone UK, there's an O2 Advert at the bottom, haha!
 
sushi said:
Great, now you pay pay capital gains tax on your capital gains. :)

Yesterday was a down market day for most stocks. Apple stock will bounce back in the long run.
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The Nasdaq was down 0.9%, AAPL was down 5.1%. I suspect most of the Nasdaq down was due to AAPL.

I too dumped my stock after this announcement, I not absolutely certain it was the right decision but for the first time in a long time I think there is a big risk to seeing more upside and little resistance to the downside. Two key things occurred yesterday, Apple p****d off a customer base that is its most supportive, and they created a pricing structure that offers little of the normally impressive margins on the iPod and iPhone, so they have to make it up on volume even though there is nothing that revolutionary about the new products so why would people go out and buy a new one. I think most of the easy pickings have been had so I don't see the growth story in the iPod/iPhone right now until the iPhone price point halves again. Their saving grace will be the halo effect and the mac line. That's the primary source of growth now. I'll sit on the sidelines until the dust settles and things get clearer.

Remember it was bone-headed moves that brought Apple down the first time, they are capable of it folks. It wouldn't surprise me if another bone-headed move has that effect again since it is all the early adopters that can create the 'coolness' factor in the first place and they are all irate right now. Every cool thing always becomes uncool when too many people have it, the iPod and later the iPhone will eventually be the same. I think they should have kept it exclusive and maintained the margins.

It does make me laugh though that now Apple can't do any wrong in the analysts eyes. It took them years to realize that Apple was really on to something with the iPod and now they can't seem to see that the fundamentals of the company are going to change with yesterday's announcements. Oh well.
 
RHutch said:
WOW!!! Lucky guy! 10,000 times? That's impressive. That's an average of about once a day every day for more than 27 years.
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Let's assume that they were unmarried for twenty-six years, then got married and had sex at the normal married rate for the following twenty-four ;) Marriage is indeed a rude awakening :)
 
~J~ said:
This is not about the $200... its about the principle of their actions.
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Ah, yes. The old "It's not the money, it's the principle" argument. Face it--it's about the money.

If I had a dollar for every client who said they wanted to sue for the principle and not for the money, and then demurred when I said I'd require a $10K retainer to start, I could retire.

So please, put the tired old "principle" argument away and just admit you're upset because of the money.

Bob
 
How much egoists does it take to fill up a discussion forum?

Be happy for those who can now have an iPhone for $200 less...

and, there are many more people happy about Apple right now then unhappy.


and.. great that this makes it to be the 3rd story on CNN... great publicity for the $200 cheaper iPhone!
 
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