8GB model - a hassle to keep updating?

Discussion in 'iPod touch' started by pavinder, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. pavinder macrumors member

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    With a cashback offer up my sleeve I'm trying to decide which iPod to buy. I want something with high capacity but am happy to wait a few months before getting a 32GB (or higher if it's available) next generation iPod Touch. So for now I'm contemplating using the cashback offer to get the 8GB Touch or a 16GB Nano.

    As it'll be mainly used for video and music, the Touch obviously would be better for video, but I'm really concerned that with just 8GB of space I'll be constantly having to remove/update the library. My music collection alone is around 150GB, so it'll need serious amounts of selection to narrow down to 4 or 5 GB to carry. For this reason I'm considering buying the 16GB Nano, despite it's much smaller screen and lack of other functionality.

    Can any 8GB Touch users confirm whether my fears are justified or not? Do you it a hassle and waste a lot of time narrowing down your collection again and again due to the size limitations?
    Alternatively, do any Nano users find the Nano screen is in fact big enough to watch TV programs or movies in widescreen format?

    Thanks in advance for comments.
     
  2. Topper59 macrumors member

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    I have an 8GB 2G, and its not that big of a deal. I have around 750 songs on it and 3/4 of it I don't even listen to. My 750 songs take up about 4-6GB, since I have 2.0GB left on it. I keep the other 2GB to put movies on it when I take plane/car rides. So if you can narrow your music collection down it should be fine. But, if you can't, wait for the 3G touch. (Although i'm not sure if the 3G touch will have any more space)
     
  3. gan6660 macrumors 65816

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    I ihave an 8gb touch and dont have any problem with it. I also have a nano and the screen isnt small if you only watch one tv show but for movies and/or multiple tv shows it is a bit small.
     
  4. Eric S. macrumors 68040

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    I have an 8GB touch and I find it a major pain to sync to my iTunes database. It doesn't have enough space to sync any of my full playlists. Unlike my iPod Shuffle, the touch doesn't adjust well to playlists that are too large to sync in their entirety. And if it's filled to capacity with music I can't add or update apps. What I've done finally is just create a "Touch playlist" that it syncs with, and I have to add and remove songs manually from that playlist. I think the whole music interface on the touch is funky compared to my other iPods (Classic and Shuffle).
     
  5. pavinder thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks for the comments everyone, much appreciated.

    I'll have to ensure as Topper suggests that I'm well narrowed. I'm concerned as Eric mentions that keeping it fully loaded might prevent loading new apps, which would be a royal pain, but I like the solution of a dedicated Touch playlist - should make things straightforward even if updating has to be done more often than I'd like.

    gan6660, your comment about the nano screen is well noted - I think I may give the nano a miss for that very reason.
     
  6. andybno1 macrumors 68040

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    you'd have to wait till sept for the next generation iPod Touch with no guarantee they will introduce a bigger capacity ram disks.

    I have 16gb 1st gen and have no problems worrying about space and I have a fair bit on my iPod: music, movies, photos, apps
     
  7. scotty96LSC macrumors 65816

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    I too have an 8 gb iPod touch. I let iTunes make selections for me by using its smart playlist feature. Takes no time in syncing. I have 650 songs on it, 20 music videos, apps and photos and still have 2.5 gb left.
    Maybe take a bigger step and get the 16g instead. But don't sweat the updating and syncing as it works great.
     
  8. Eric S. macrumors 68040

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    I don't understand - how does that let iTunes make the selections?
     
  9. michael.lauden macrumors 68020

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    he probably means that he doesn't manually manage his iTunes collection - and that he syncs to his Smart Playlist(s) that iTunes creates by itself.
     
  10. Eric S. macrumors 68040

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    But of course that doesn't help if the touch doesn't have enough capacity for the entire playlist. So whether the playlist is a smart one or not, the problem is the same.
     
  11. michael.lauden macrumors 68020

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  12. Eric S. macrumors 68040

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    OK, I see. That's a nice way to generate a random playlist for the touch, but you still need a separate list for the device. You can't sync a regular playlist (smart or not) if it's too large. On the Shuffle, for example, if you sync with a list that exceeds its capacity, iTunes will automatically ask you if you want a random selection from that playlist.
     
  13. michael.lauden macrumors 68020

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    you're going to argue this to the end aren't you?

    all you have to do is make the playlist once - and it won't be too big if you can specify the size. then ALL you have to do is select that playlist to be synced.

    you really don't have to do anything after that.

    i wouldn't see what the big deal is if you had:


    Eric's iPod Touch Selection
    Eric's iPod Shuffle Selection
    Eric's iPod Classic Selection

    each with the same rules except differing in size?

    you could even put them in a playlist folder named: iPod Selections

    and then have the playlist arrow collapse so it wouldn't look cluttered at all.


    i don't really see any negative results from doing this :confused:
     
  14. scotty96LSC macrumors 65816

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    Yep. That is what I do, that is what I meant if it was not clear.
     
  15. Eric S. macrumors 68040

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    I'm not arguing. I'm just stating what is the case.

    You're talking about making playlists specifically for these devices. I'm talking about general playlists that I already have. For example, I have smart playlists for various decades - 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s ... Each one of these has more songs than my touch has capacity for. If I sync to one of these with my Shuffle, iTunes automatically makes a random selection from that playlist. If I try to sync the touch to one of these it won't do that (as I recall, it just tells you there is not enough space). That's what I mean.

    Sure, you can create a playlist specifically for the touch. I already said that's what I do. But you have to go to the extra step of doing that instead of having iTunes do it for you. If one day I want to hear random songs from the 50s and the next day random songs from the 60s, I need two separate playlists for the touch or else change the definitions for the touch playlist. So I consider that a pain compared to the way the Shuffle works.
     
  16. pavinder thread starter macrumors member

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    Thanks for the further suggestions. The Size Limit checkbox was something I was unaware of....

    I've gone ahead and ordered the 8GB Touch, but just a question on these smart playlists - is one stuck with the original selection of tracks iTunes has made, or does the playlist have a randomize/refresh button (or equivalent) which will refresh the list with a new (in the above case) 5GB selection of songs to then sync with the iPod?
     
  17. J&JPolangin macrumors 68030

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    ...8GB for a touch IS too small...

    The screen on the nano IS too small...

    Skip them, you won't be happy with those choices - either wait for a 64GB version of the iPod Touch or get a 32 GB now...
     
  18. Dnz macrumors newbie

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    Thing is - judging by this forum and others, people have been waiting and predicting an increase FOR MONTHS. Like its getting a little ridiculous... aaargh
     

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