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I’m sure you have seen the above titles in YouTube videos. I for one am SICK of it…

But having said that , now that’s it 2026 and I don’t expect an Apple TV before march , what would you accept…

8K IS SO ridiculous, hardly any TV IS displaying it. So let’s move on.

Last March the A17 Pro processor would have been acceptable but it’s 2026 and the A20 chip will be out… So 17 18 19 20… 4 Generations behind… I would not pay money for a 17. The 18 PRO would be acceptable.

As for display, most things you watch are 60 FPS or less. If your a gamer your probably not using the Apple TV 4K. So is 120 FPS something you really want. I would think If you have movies that are HD/UHD you would want this…

Apples new com chip… I think it’s N1 or is it C1. With the new C2 chip being released the the iPhone 18… I can’t imagine Apple would issue the C2 chip with the Apple TV , but for AI purposes and the Home Control thing, it would be nice if all com chips were on the same level.

Audio, better Audio HD…

Please don’t watch the YouTube videos for Apple TV, until the new model is released. Thank you in advance!
 
An A17 Pro would still be overkill for an Apple TV. It is doubtful they would use a more powerful chipset. Apple uses one of the lowest end chipsets that is still in production for the Apple TV 4K so the A17 Pro makes the most sense.
 
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I’m sure you have seen the above titles in YouTube videos. I for one am SICK of it…
Then why did you do it to us?
8K IS SO ridiculous, hardly any TV IS displaying it. So let’s move on.
I personally would like to keep my Apple TV for a long time, so I would expect that any future one would be as advanced as possible in the video playback department. I wish my HD had HEVC support and my 4K had AV1 support, and yet here we are.
Last March the A17 Pro processor would have been acceptable but it’s 2026 and the A20 chip will be out… So 17 18 19 20… 4 Generations behind… I would not pay money for a 17. The 18 PRO would be acceptable.
Beyond video playback, what do you expect from your ATV's CPU? At that, video playback is done through a dedicated section of the chip nowadays.
If your a gamer your probably not using the Apple TV 4K. So is 120 FPS something you really want.
I guess I am a "gamer" and I do use an Apple TV 4K. Not to game on, of course. But yes, HRR would be nice. 120 FPS is a multiple of 24, 30, and 60, it's one of the best refresh rates you could choose. Having VRR such that the TV's refresh rate scales with the content would be nice as well.
Apples new com chip… I think it’s N1 or is it C1. With the new C2 chip being released the the iPhone 18… I can’t imagine Apple would issue the C2 chip with the Apple TV , but for AI purposes and the Home Control thing, it would be nice if all com chips were on the same level.
The Apple C1 is a cellular chip, I think you mean the N1. It has nothing to do with AI, it's just for processing network communications (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth).
An A17 Pro would still be overkill for an Apple TV
They will likely bin any chip they put in the ATV, as they've done previously. I would hope they'd put a binned version of whatever has hardware decode for AV1 and JXL. We can only hope Apple moves in the JXL direction with the rest of their lineup.
 
I'm preparing to be disappointed but I am hoping for a more recent A-Series SoC for at least one new Apple TV model.

Quite a few people say, not unreasonably, that there is no need for anything more powerful for a streaming device but I still have a suspicion (and a hope) that with the next generation of Apple TV (possibly renamed to better reflect what I'm about to speculate on) it will be positioned not only as a streaming device but also as an (optional) AI hub for a smart home where, if one is present, a lot more processing can remain local to the home rather than, for instance, a HomePod having to pass a request up to Apple's cloud servers when it is too complex for the HomePod's S-Series SoC to handle. That would give extra reassurance to users re privacy (local always more reassuring to me than going out to the cloud), would probably decrease latency, and would save Apple costs on its back-end servers by reducing the load on them.

If my vision/hope does come to pass (I'm a big smart speaker enthusiast - I blame it on reading too much sci-fi when I was young) then I wonder if we might see 2 versions of the next Apple TV - as we do now - but differentiated somewhat differently where the baseline model is aimed at people who do just want a streamer so has a somewhat less capable A-Series SoC (probably still be the A17 Pro since that is AI enabled for basic find-me-something-to-watch etc streaming-related requests) and a higher-end model - maybe at a more significant price differential compared to what we see between the two Apple TV versions sow - where that higher end model has something more powerful than the A17 Pro and maybe more memory as well (although the RAM price crisis makes me wonder whether Apple could manage that and still keep the price affordable. I also hope that for the next generation both versions would get a wired Ethernet port added because everyone deserves that option nowadays not just people getting the more expensive model.

Although I'm not a gamer, and I accept that Apple as a gaming platform is at least as much to do with developer capture as it is to do with the hardware capabilities, maybe such a higher-end higher-performance Apple TV could also add at least some more casual gamers (those who don't want to invest in dedicated gaming hardware like a console or gaming PC) into the group of potential purchasers.

Personally I'd have no problem paying $200 - $300 for such a high-end more powerful ATV, provided that Apple did use it to do good things with local AI processing to make my (not yet purchased) HomePods perform really well, to analyse video feeds locally etc.
 
8k is dead, so unlikely to appear on an Apple TV anytime soon: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...e-world-accepts-that-people-dont-want-8k-tvs/

120 Hz seems like such an obvious addition to enable clean 24, 30, 60 fps playback, but will Apple support it?

A17 Pro is a dead-end - it will play those AAA games, but the performance is terrible (and that's on an iPhone, never mind a 4k Tv) and Apple must be running ow of stockpiled/binned chips. If the Apple TV launches with 17Pro I would hazard a guess that an A18 or A19 model will follow next year (similar to the A12 model in 2021 and the A15 model in 2022).
 
They’re making the same mistake they did with HD when it first came out in the broadcast world. Some locals went with 1080i and their feed is still garbage with live sports. The 720p is much better. It all should have gone 720p first, then 1080p for broadcast. At this point, everything needs to go to 1080p or 4K first for broadcast TV, it really is enough for the home right now. Let the technology peak, then maybe 6K. In 20 years we can talk about 8K. If you’re buying an 8K set today, you’re wasting your money. As for 4K streaming today, increase the bit rates and work on increasing audio bandwidth for those who have the pipe in their home.
 
is there a way to rename or delete this thread?

I've now been caught by it a few times, thinking it's real info, And ...
Title change would probably be a good idea. In the meantime you can put the thread on Ignore and it will disappear for you.
 
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