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He's a really big guy and that's probably the one thing holding him back now from running in the 9.4's.

I actually disagree with you there. I think his size is what's making this possible. He covers so much ground with each stride that a shorter runner's turnover would have to be dramatically faster to keep up. The one potential downside of his size is unfurling that full frame out of the blocks - you might think a shorter, more compact runner would have an advantage there. But since Bolt pretty much won this race in the first 30m, I guess that theory's out the window. ;)

Also - he won his 200m heat in 20.70. 1.4 sec. off his WR and still good enough to win a heat at world's!! :eek:
 
I think the only sprinter in the world who can even come close to challenging Bolt is Tyson Gay. If you look at their last race again, Gay was actually keeping pace with Bolt toward the end despite him being a couple strides back. If Gay can somehow improve how he gets off the block, he could pose potential threat.
 
I think the only sprinter in the world who can even come close to challenging Bolt is Tyson Gay. If you look at their last race again, Gay was actually keeping pace with Bolt toward the end despite him being a couple strides back. If Gay can somehow improve how he gets off the block, he could pose potential threat.

Not sure about that. Watch again. I don't think the race was won or lost off the block by any stretch. Bolt just goes to a whole other gear midway and then turns it down towards the end.
 
I actually disagree with you there. I think his size is what's making this possible. He covers so much ground with each stride that a shorter runner's turnover would have to be dramatically faster to keep up. The one potential downside of his size is unfurling that full frame out of the blocks - you might think a shorter, more compact runner would have an advantage there. But since Bolt pretty much won this race in the first 30m, I guess that theory's out the window. ;)

Also - he won his 200m heat in 20.70. 1.4 sec. off his WR and still good enough to win a heat at world's!! :eek:

That's actually what I meant saying he's a big guy, he's got a big disadvantage coming out of the blocks. Watching his race at the IAAF's he is making big gains in that department over where he was at the Olympics, but he's still rough if you compare his technique to that of other world class sprinters, he comes out of his drive phase way too soon. I've heard that he is working hard on back strength and such to get better out of the blocks and it's starting to show, but it's only going to get better. Bolt is otherworldly when it comes to stride length and turnover speed, but he's mortal out of the blocks for now. Just wait a couple of years though, by age 25 I would be shocked if Bolt hasn't hit 9.45, he could have hit about 9.5-9.53 if he would have run the entire race at the IAAF's!

As for the 200m, I wouldn't expect Bolt to be going after that record again this week, though I may be wrong. Remember he actually ran all the way through the race in the Olympics. 19.3 is a very difficult time to achieve. Michael Johnson, the closest thing we've ever seen to Bolt as far as results go, only hit that mark once to set the world record. His next best time was 19.66, a whole 0.34 seconds off. With all the hype of the 100m, I wouldn't expect much from the 200 because Gay has dropped out due to injury. As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part. If you read about his reaction, it wasn't typical Bolt, he folded his hands by his head to show how tired he is. With his injury earlier this year he hasn't gotten the training in to be expected to break the world record at 200m again, but then again Bolt is Bolt, he could easily do it if he's not pushed too hard in the quarters and semis and gets plenty of rest.
 
Not sure about that. Watch again. I don't think the race was won or lost off the block by any stretch. Bolt just goes to a whole other gear midway and then turns it down towards the end.

I did look at it again and you're right, it does look like Bolt just hit his stride before Gay hit his. But when they both were at their strides about 3/4 of the way they look to be going equal speed. Plus, I'm not sure why everyone believes Bolt let up at the end. It wasn't anything like Beijing... He looked like he actually ran through the line this time despite glancing over. If anything it looked like Gay let up at the end when he knew he wasn't catching Bolt. There's no question Bolt is the number one sprinter in the world right now, I'm just saying Gay looks like he could actually pose a challenge in the future.
 
I had you beat 20yrs ago ... I ran 10.56 my fastest ... only because I had to pee soo badly and had butterfly's and wanted to impress a girl at school. I was 16. Avg times where 11.20 roughly.

I'll agree ... 9.58 is just INSANE!

I recall growing up and spending 2mths each winter in Montego Bay or Sandy Bay waking up and running on the beach with my family. Flat out for 100 - 200meters. I don't doubt he started off in a similar fashion at a very young age.

I see his only weakness. The starts. It seems the first 3-5 meters its difficult for him to lift up his knees to get a good stride. Its hard with his height being crouched down so low.

Hand timed? That's insane for HS. I hit 11.1 in HS

will be interesting to see him go after the 200 Ms b/c he's just as fast and, I believe he's trying the 400 Ms this year. I wonder if he can maintain whatever fast pace he goes b/c that is a different type of race.

No way. When I was in college I ran 400 (approx 50sec) and under and my roomate ran 800 and over. At a meet the coach had me run an 800. I said to my roomate with a cocky attitude that I could go under 2 minutes EASY since it's as simple as running 60 + 59 sec. WRONG! I hit 60 sec on my first lap and then 80 on my second lap. And I was TIRED.

The 400M is just a different type of race. You have to relax much more.

The ability he has to look at the clock while running, and finish at the time he wants is amazing.

He only runs fast enough to win and create hype. It'd be boring for him if he'd run as fast as he could last year at the Olympics (God knows how fast that would be) because he wouldn't be able to keep breaking the WR. (and thus garner more publicity)

He's going little by little, giving the population just enough to remain excited.

Next year he's going to run 9.4.

I think you hit the nail on the head :)
 
Also, for those familiar with a 40-yard dash time from the NFL combine, his running start time (essentially the last 40 yards of his run this weekend) would have been 3.1 seconds.
How did you get that number? A simple division of 40 yards by 100 meters gets me 3.5 seconds, but that would assume his speed is constant. It takes some time to get to that speed, so he should be taking longer than 3.5 seconds to reach 40 yards in reality. Of course, I don't know whether he holds back for a 100m race compared to what he would do for 40 yards, so that may balance things out. Anyways, I am curious how you got 3.1 seconds.
 
Bolt is otherworldly when it comes to stride length and turnover speed, but he's mortal out of the blocks for now.

Right outta the blocks, like literally the first couple of strides, you're right. But he put that race away pretty soon after that.

As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I was just saying it's amazing that he can run under 21 and basically look like he's jogging. 20.7 is not a bad time (though clearly not world class)!

No way. When I was in college I ran 400 (approx 50sec) and under and my roomate ran 800 and over. At a meet the coach had me run an 800. I said to my roomate with a cocky attitude that I could go under 2 minutes EASY since it's as simple as running 60 + 59 sec. WRONG! I hit 60 sec on my first lap and then 80 on my second lap. And I was TIRED.

The 400M is just a different type of race. You have to relax much more.

well obviously he'd have to train differently and learn some different mental approaches to racing, but I think he could break the WR in the 400 if he focused on that event for a while. Your experience relates to what would happen if he tried to run it today but not what it would be like if he trained for it.
 
As for the 200m, I wouldn't expect Bolt to be going after that record again this week, though I may be wrong. Remember he actually ran all the way through the race in the Olympics. 19.3 is a very difficult time to achieve. Michael Johnson, the closest thing we've ever seen to Bolt as far as results go, only hit that mark once to set the world record. His next best time was 19.66, a whole 0.34 seconds off. With all the hype of the 100m, I wouldn't expect much from the 200 because Gay has dropped out due to injury. As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part. If you read about his reaction, it wasn't typical Bolt, he folded his hands by his head to show how tired he is. With his injury earlier this year he hasn't gotten the training in to be expected to break the world record at 200m again, but then again Bolt is Bolt, he could easily do it if he's not pushed too hard in the quarters and semis and gets plenty of rest.

Well I said I could be wrong and boy was I ever! Bolt just broke the 200m world record by 0.11 seconds and lowered it to 19.19! This guy is a freak of nature! There must be something about him running the 100m on August 16 and the 200m on August 20, because he's set the world record on those days the last two years.
Back to the 100m, for those of you who are interested, Bolt actually ran a slower 1st 20m in his 100m than he did in the Olympics, but his last 20m, not surprisingly, was .07 sec faster. I've posted the breakdown below.
Beijing Berlin

20m 2.87secs 2.89secs

40m 1.78secs 1.75secs

60m 1.67secs 1.67secs

80m 1.64secs 1.61secs

100m 1.73secs 1.66secs
Source: http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...t-world-record-of-all-time-official-1.823266#

Edit: For all you football fans out there, using these numbers and the following formula it can be estimated that Bolt ran an amazing, but not unheardof fast 4.34 40 yard dash in his world record 100m run. I got this by using the following formula:
20m = 65.62ft
40yards = 120ft
Assuming that speed is fairly constant after the first 20m (some inaccuracy here) multiply the time to go over the 2nd 20 meters by (120-65.62)/65.62. This gives:
1.75*0.82871=1.45sec
2.89+1.45=4.34sec
 
HD video link again, for those who care.

19.19. A new hero for kids all around the globe. And adults, too. :p



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19.19 on the 200m? :eek::eek::eek:

That's just freaking ridiculous.

And on that 100m, he still let up the last 10m. I seriously think he could break 9.5 if he just keeps on running as he did the previous 90m. But i'm sure he's saving that for the 2012 Olympics ;)
 
How perfect is his name?

He comes across as pretty cool too. All just nonchalantly breaking world records and leaving people in his dust. :cool:
 
Well I said I could be wrong and boy was I ever! Bolt just broke the 200m world record by 0.11 seconds and lowered it to 19.19! This guy is a freak of nature! There must be something about him running the 100m on August 16 and the 200m on August 20, because he's set the world record on those days the last two years.
Back to the 100m, for those of you who are interested, Bolt actually ran a slower 1st 20m in his 100m than he did in the Olympics, but his last 20m, not surprisingly, was .07 sec faster. I've posted the breakdown below.
Beijing Berlin

20m 2.87secs 2.89secs

40m 1.78secs 1.75secs

60m 1.67secs 1.67secs

80m 1.64secs 1.61secs

100m 1.73secs 1.66secs
Source: http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...t-world-record-of-all-time-official-1.823266#

Edit: For all you football fans out there, using these numbers and the following formula it can be estimated that Bolt ran an amazing, but not unheardof fast 4.34 40 yard dash in his world record 100m run. I got this by using the following formula:
20m = 65.62ft
40yards = 120ft
Assuming that speed is fairly constant after the first 20m (some inaccuracy here) multiply the time to go over the 2nd 20 meters by (120-65.62)/65.62. This gives:
1.75*0.82871=1.45sec
2.89+1.45=4.34sec

I realize you're going from his starting times from 0 to 40 yards
(36.58 meters) but I looked at his overall time and came up with this:

100 meters / 9.58 seconds = 10.43 meters / second
That's 37.55 km/hr, or 23.33 miles/hr

10.43 m/s = 11.416 yards / second
40 yards / 11.416 yards/sec = 3.5 seconds :eek:

His fastest segment time, 60 meters to 80 meters in 1.61 seconds
20 meters / 1.61 seconds = 12.42 m/s which is 13.58 yards/sec
40yards / 13.58 yards/sec = 2.95 seconds

So yeah.... fast. :eek:
 
I realize you're going from his starting times from 0 to 40 yards
(36.58 meters) but I looked at his overall time and came up with this:

100 meters / 9.58 seconds = 10.43 meters / second
That's 37.55 km/hr, or 23.33 miles/hr

10.43 m/s = 11.416 yards / second
40 yards / 11.416 yards/sec = 3.5 seconds :eek:

His fastest segment time, 60 meters to 80 meters in 1.61 seconds
20 meters / 1.61 seconds = 12.42 m/s which is 13.58 yards/sec
40yards / 13.58 yards/sec = 2.95 seconds

So yeah.... fast. :eek:

Makes me wish I had stuck with track :( Coulda been me :p
 
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