allot of people have been saying the g5 get's owned by intel/AMD and every benchmark they have seen has proved it, please if this is your opinion can you post some links to some benchmarks. the rules: no benchmarks comparing different apps i dont care that mac the ripper is 20% slower on a g5 than whatever you use on your pc is. dont even try to use Gflops as a measure of performence. no overclocked benchmarks unless it's overclocked to the speed of a shipping cpu. when showing comparison calculate the cost per % of performance compared to the fastest rig, retail only no self builds. if in two weeks on tuesday there is not conclusive evidence that the G5 is slow i'm putting this thread in my sig and in every thread someone says "mac's are slow and they get owned by AMD/intel" keep it clean no flamming, that includes pointing out bad grammar/spelling. may the best cpu win.