If I erase it by swiping to the right will I be able to play it again say a week from now? In other words will I still see it with the cloud next to it after swiping to the right and deleting.
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A Clear Explanation of iTunes Match
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If I erase it by swiping to the right will I be able to play it again say a week from now? In other words will I still see it with the cloud next to it after swiping to the right and deleting.
At the bottom of the playlist / album / or Artist should be a "Download All" button.
If a song is matched and I stop subscription next year, and when I visit the iTune store again, does it look like I have owned that song and would not have to pay again to get that song?
Ok, read the whole thread and still have 2 questions.
1) Is there an option for downloading 128k files from the Cloud to our iDevices to save space?
2) Do the new matched files have embedded artwork? Artwork actually embedded within the file that can be read by other devices and programs.
1) Is there an option for downloading 128k files from the Cloud to our iDevices to save space?
2) Do the new matched files have embedded artwork? Artwork actually embedded within the file that can be read by other devices and programs.
Good question.
I did a test.
I took a song that was in MP3 on my main library that was matched.
I deleted it.
Clicked the cloud button and re-downloaded it.
Now it is the Cloud AAC version but the "kind" states something like, cloud matched AAC.
Does that file go away if I don't re-up next year?
This is driving me up a wall. I can't get it to match the complete albums for some of my stuff.
I did an experiment and deleted the entire album "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac. It's in the iTunes store...not as a special "enhanced" or "remastered" version from what I can tell, and then took my CD and re-ripped it.
Match comes on, says that it can match 6 of the 11 songs, but it uploads 5 of them for no apparent reason. I've tried different rip methods (MP3 or AAC) and it still insists on uploading some of the tracks on the CD and Matching the others. No reason given. It just does it.
Here's what I mean:
I did an experiment and deleted the entire album "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac. It's in the iTunes store...not as a special "enhanced" or "remastered" version from what I can tell, and then took my CD and re-ripped it.
Match comes on, says that it can match 6 of the 11 songs, but it uploads 5 of them for no apparent reason. I've tried different rip methods (MP3 or AAC) and it still insists on uploading some of the tracks on the CD and Matching the others. No reason given. It just does it.
Here's what I mean:
If you only had 100 songs then you could leave them all on every device you own in perpetuity.
The fact that it's a bad deal for such a bizarre example says nothing about whether it suits anybody else.
It's paying $25/year to have all one's music available anywhere on-demand (plus the other benefits). Sounds reasonable to me.
Doesn't Amazon or Google offer all the same functionality of having your music available anywhere on-demand? Those services are free.
iTunes Match isn't even a great back-up service. Sure, it backs up your music but what about other files? It seems to me that Apple isn't sure what this service is. IMO, you'd be better off paying for something like Carbonite (for all files) and using Google Music.
Do you have an entire local library in your house? No. You have a small library of books, but have access to a vast library, called....The Library. So do you need a library of 60k+ music files, No. You need access to a vast library of music and that's called Spotify (Or your personal flavor of the week.)
Now, if you do have a large local library of books at your house, and you have 60k+ Music Cd's, there's a show you need to check out, called, Hoarders.
Well I used to be in the music business and have been collecting records and CDs for over 40 years. My CD collection is maybe ten thousand plus and bit bit bit we are digitally loading everything in lossless. Will i be a horder and keep the CDs an LPS? Yeah probably. I love the packages and designs but I do understand that there are now generations who for the most part don't want or need the physical albums. There are many more than don't care about fidelity and only listen on iPods or computers. That's fine. Spotify and the like are good but limited. Some of us with vast collections want access anywhere. Again it's not that we listen to 25,000 or 90,000 at once but we want to pull that song or album at anytime.
I know that my songs won't be lossless when I am on the road but I would love to have easy access to my collection . Much of the music I own is not on these other music services.
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Yes... it only deletes the local copy so you can play it again at any time.
Also this is only the case on iOS. In iTunes you have to explicitly download tracks. If you play them they will just stream. On iOS if you play a track it simultaneously streams and downloads.
I like this behavior as it allows me to have my most played music stored locally on my iPhone. On my mb Air I prefer it to stream as I would not be likely using that on the go for just music (and if I did I would have my iPhone).
I would like, however, for an "edit" mode in the music app in order to more easily delete tracks.
Michael
Not sure I see a point in this iTunes Matching, what would be good if for a yearly fee, it would allow me to store all my content locally on my MB, then replace all the lower quality versions with the 256 version from iTunes for this fee. I have 300+GB of Music and I am not sure this would work for my library, and some music was purchased, some ripped...
I have to say, some of the idiosyncrasies of this service are just strange. Take the Beatles' Red and Blue Albums: I have all four discs ripped in 128K mp3 (done long before I was even using iTunes), but 33 of the 54 tracks were matched while the remaining 21 were uploaded. No rhyme or reason.
Overall it matched about 63%, but there's a lot of live stuff that I wouldn't expect to be matched in the unmatched list.
Overall it matched about 63%, but there's a lot of live stuff that I wouldn't expect to be matched in the unmatched list.
So what? I was arguing against the following:
EDIT: LOL at Match backing up your music but not other files. So what? It's not advertised as doing that; what a spurious point on which to evaluate iTunes Match.
As for the other services being free, iTunes Match differs from them in ways which might be worth $25 to someone. This is not an extravagant claim.
Not eligible - old iTunes email
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread...I have a bunch of songs that show as ineligible. When I viewed info, they all have old iTunes email addresses. Anybody know if this is the reason they are not eligible?
These email addresses have been updated in "my account", so it isn't a different account, just the old email address. I probably need to contact Apple if this is the case.
Oh, and in my infinite wisdom, I started the match process before using TuneUp. I wanted to see what couldn't be matched before I dropped $50, but I may still purchase it to get remaining album art. I sure hope there will be a way to re-scan your library...
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread...I have a bunch of songs that show as ineligible. When I viewed info, they all have old iTunes email addresses. Anybody know if this is the reason they are not eligible?
These email addresses have been updated in "my account", so it isn't a different account, just the old email address. I probably need to contact Apple if this is the case.
Oh, and in my infinite wisdom, I started the match process before using TuneUp. I wanted to see what couldn't be matched before I dropped $50, but I may still purchase it to get remaining album art. I sure hope there will be a way to re-scan your library...
That's my point. Apple has created a service that doesn't really do anything 100%. This service is a mash-up of half-baked services that don't completely serve any purpose.
My 100 song example was to demonstrate a point. You're paying Apple to rent your music forever. The same could be said with someone who has thousands of songs, it would just take longer to reach the point at which you've paid for all your content yet you still don't actually own it in Apple's eyes. The point is, this service isn't doing anything for you.
You're either:
Paying $25 to upgrade your music (fine - this is a one-time occurrence which has some benefit).
Paying $25/year (this is a big difference than paying $25 once) to store your music on Apple's cloud. This is the part that Google and Amazon do for free.
Paying $25/year as a back-up solution. (other services are slightly more expensive but they offer system-wide backups that capture things like pictures, movies, documents, and music.)
Matched =/= owned. The EULA states that you can only use Match for songs that you legally own. Matching a pirated song does not confer ownership. If the RIAA proves you downloaded it they can sue you regardless of whether you later matched it and cleaned it up.
Apple maintains a list of songs you purchased. When you match a song it does NOT go into your purchases. Anything in your purchases you can download whether you enrolled in Match or not. The iTunes store is completely independent of Match as far as ownership is concerned.
Anal-retentive is a psychological term coined by Freud. People can be orally fixated or anally fixated. They can be incorporative or retentive, giving you four combinations. A person is said to be anal-retentive if they have a fixation on order, cleanliness and stability. It is not an insult, nor does it have any sexual connotation.
When it comes to my iTunes library I am extremely fastidious about meta-data. Now there are other psychological properties that some people exhibit, such as the inability to detect humor or sarcasm. I think I'll leave it at that.
Nice work! Now if Apple can figure out how to detect the rest of my legitimate tracks on the albums that are half matched, half uploaded.
So you'll decide what iTunes Match is supposed to do, and when it doesn't meet your criteria, it's failed to do anything 100%. Come on.
You're not paying to rent the music, once you pay for it, you own it.
'Storing it on the Cloud' is a misleading metaphor that reduces the Cloud to external storage.
You're paying Apple to deliver your non-iTunes music to your device wherever you are and keep your music synchronized across devices. It's like paying someone to bring your LPs wherever you are, instantaneously (among the other things it does).
If you pay for your thousands of songs through iTunes, you don't need to pay for Match.
If this service isn't doing anything, then neither is Google's nor Amazon's music service, so are you saying they don't do anything either?
Finally, Google's and Amazon's music services differ in salient ways from Apple's service which might matter to people and thus warrant the fee.
One would have to ignore the above to think Match is unequivocally a 'bad deal', I remain convinced that I have a better perspective on this. Cheers!
How many tracks does Google Music (or Amazon Prime) match? Zero?? Thought so.
Michael
I can't understand why people think that if we have over 25,000 songs in our library that we've been stealing music. I'm 41 years old and have been buying CDs since they first came out, I have a HUGE collection. Then I got married. My husband is a music geek and runs a side business as a DJ. In addition to 700 or so CDs that I owned, he had close to 2,000 when we first got married. Believe me, for a DJ this is really not excessive. Now, we've been married for 11 years and have purchased more music. More recent purchases have of course been digital but over the years, probably thousands of those CDs have been burned into our iTunes library. We even still sometimes do weddings where we will get a request that we don't have in our collection. When you're a DJ, there is no such thing as having too much music! We would gladly pay for being able to have more than 25,000 songs! For now, my husband is going to continue using Spotify, which he has been using since it was released in the US. I am probably going to subscribe to iTunes Match because I don't have anywhere near as much music nor do I have the same kinds of need as he does. Everyone's collection is different, everyone's use of the service is different. It's a brand new thing so I am sure that as it rolls out and evolves, it will change, just like everything else. Personally, I'm excited about being able to listen to my music at work and that is the main thing that I will be using the service for, at least for now. $25/year is a bargain for that service, at least in my opinion!