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3) there is no competition that makes smaller phones

When the OP said “Most of the market wants large screens” and “it’s clear people want larger screens” you asked for evidence—but you already provided it.

You can be sure that companies would be only too happy to make small phones and rake in the profits if there was sufficient demand. There’s not. Maybe users’ tastes will change in the future and the pendulum will swing back to smaller phones... you never know. Things often go in cycles.
 
The XR doesn’t appeal at all to me. I have a XS and it feels like a tank in my hand. I miss the smaller size and weight of my 6/7 and my 4S before that. The XR is even bigger - frankly it looks enormous - and the thick bezel looks doofy next to the XS. The promise of a bezel-less phone was the best of both worlds - a big screen in a small body - but these things are just too damn hefty. I would much prefer a 5” screen in a pocketable, one-handable body.

Sorry to hear that. I love my se just because of the size. And my phones not cutting edge but it never lags and does fine. Eventually would like to upgrade. I agree. An iPhone X in the form factor of an se would be ideal to me. Imo I think it’s easier to think a bigger screen is always better but a small phone is convenient a lot of the time. And bonus I have a headphone jack lol.
 
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When the OP said “Most of the market wants large screens” and “it’s clear people want larger screens” you asked for evidence—but you already provided it.

You can be sure that companies would be only too happy to make small phones and rake in the profits if there was sufficient demand. There’s not. maybe users’ taste will change in the future, and the pendulum will swing back to smaller phones... you never know. Things often go in cycles.

Then why do more people buy the smaller of the two phones if the market wants big phones.
 
The reason why I bought the IPhone XR is because op the LCD screen.

The main reason is that the XS Max is giving me headache and dizziness because of the 240HZ PWM dimming.

Hopefully they have not used this technology in the LCD screen. Until now all LCD screens of the iPhones did not use PWM dimming.

Also using navigation daily on high brightness. LCD has less issues with burnin in this scenario
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Then why do more people buy the smaller of the two phones if the market wants big phones.

Excuse me?

The Max is dramatically out selling the XS

https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...tch-series-4-sales-exceeding-all-expectations
 
Most of the market wants large screens, so you’re in the minority. If the market wanted smaller screens, Apple would build them.

They still might but it’s clear people want larger screens.
With MOST of the smartphone market going with at least 5” screens on “small models” and some up to over 6.5” on bigger ones. I doubt any SE comebacks. But it’s Apple so you never know.
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Yeah, this really disappoints me. I’ve got a blue XR arriving Friday and it was only subsequent to preordering that I started hearing about the limitations of portrait mode on the XR. I take an inordinate amount of photos of our cats and had been enjoying the prospect of using portrait mode for this (I’m coming from an iPhone 6). It’s a shame not to have it for anything other than humans. Who takes photos of humans, anyway? So boring, so deficient in fur and whiskers...so inferior... Oh, sorry, that was the toxoplasma gondii talking again.

Anyway, the lack of that feature is not enough to justify the added expense of the XS for me. I want more storage than 64GB, which would put a XS well over £1,000. I simply can’t justify that cost on a phone. It’s not quite as essential to productivity as a dedicated computer. Maybe one day...
1984 was a good year!!

I guess what you could do is try portrait with a person holding the cats??? Idk... just a thought. You can get similar bokeh look by focusing real close on the subject too. Maybe 3rd party apps??
 
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Is it just me or have phones, tablets, and computers are just plain boring nowadays. I just don't care to get the latest stuff anymore. Seems like every year there is less of a reason to upgrade. Same goes for my friends. I take it the market is fully saturated and this whole tech bubble is ready to pop.

Feel the same but no bubble. I mean laptops are boring but people still buy them. Phones just have reached that point too.
 
I decided to go for the XsMax (from a 7) for a few a reasons but the camera, bigger OLED screen and just having a design preference for the XsMax were my main reason. Plan to use it for a couple of years minimum so opted for something I can see myself using long term.
 
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You're always going to see that with any mature market product. TV's, cars, houses, etc don't see huge leaps, they see incremental ones. The new 2019 Ferrari an iteration and incremental one on top of the 2018, rather than a giant step forward. That's normal.

I know they make it well worth it to me each year (the added productivity pays for itself quickly).

Agree with that first paragraph 100%. I waited and updated from 7 plus to XS Max, bypassed the 8 and X models. Wanted the same size phone as my 7 plus with extra screen space so the XS Max was a no brainer.

But re the other paragraph I have highlighted from your post. I AM genuinely interested in the "added productivity" aspect. It's a phone, first and foremost. WHAT added productivity "pays for itself"?
 
Apple doesn’t provide breakdowns but there is third party data, make of it what you will.

Localytics provided the following data for installed base through the end of last year, across about 750 million iPhones:

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In just a couple months, the X had caught up with about a year and 9 months of SE sales.



Flurry tracked activations, so new sales, for a week during peak holiday buying season last year; 94% bought larger (than SE) iPhones:

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As I mentioned before, tastes change, and people may shift back to wanting smaller phones. But really they’re anything but phones; they’re really a computer you always have in your pocket. For that purpose, that reason, users want a larger screen. The vast majority do anyway. Yeah it sucks if you’re one of the customers who like smaller phones. But that’s the reality.
 
Agree with that first paragraph 100%. I waited and updated from 7 plus to XS Max, bypassed the 8 and X models. Wanted the same size phone as my 7 plus with extra screen space so the XS Max was a no brainer.

But re the other paragraph I have highlighted from your post. I AM genuinely interested in the "added productivity" aspect. It's a phone, first and foremost. WHAT added productivity "pays for itself"?

Can't speak for @OldSchoolMacGuy, but for me, the traditional calling features aren't even the most important communication feature I have on my smartphone. iMessage, email, and the various social media apps on my phone are used much more, and are more important to me, than traditional voice calls.

As for productivity, I've used Trello, Asana, and Google Docs, combined with Slack to run and manage projects. Before I left my last job, they were thinking of purchasing an HR system that would assist supervisors with managing their employees (employees would be able to request and receive authorization for sick days and things like that via the app), you can't beat being able to quickly review and annotate documents while traveling on the rail, and SaleForce is a CRM beast (unfortunately not used in my current job).

The user experience/work flow keeps getting better with the higher quality business apps, such that many times its quicker and easier to take care of the sometime large amount of routine stuff we all have to do via an app, leaving the heavy stuff for the tradition computing environment.

Long way of saying, if I had a computer, separate from my phone, I'd be slower at getting things done than I am with a computer that can make phone calls.

Edit: I just talked myself into buying the iPhone XS Max. I can't give up 3D Touch.
 
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Is it just me or have phones, tablets, and computers are just plain boring nowadays. I just don't care to get the latest stuff anymore. Seems like every year there is less of a reason to upgrade. Same goes for my friends. I take it the market is fully saturated and this whole tech bubble is ready to pop.

Smartphones/iPads (not tablets in general) have gotten really so good and at the same time so expensive that is hard to justify the frequent upgrade. It has gone to the point where smartphones are so great that is hard for companies to make the new models appealing enough to make people upgrade. And it is not that I find the new models boring. It is because I find the one from last year I am using so good that I don't feel I need to upgrade for the first time.
 
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