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ThomasJL

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Why is it, at least on this forum, when Apple removes highly useful things on MacBooks (such as SD card readers, USB ports, MagSafe, etc.), many MacBook users criticize Apple, but at the same time, when Apple removes highly useful things on the iPhone (such as the headphone jack, the home button, and the rumored upcoming removal of the charging port), many iPhone users praise Apple?

Do many iPhone users have an aversion to better functionality?
 
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Spetsgruppa

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Why is it, at least on this forum, when Apple removes highly useful things on MacBooks (such as SD card readers, USB ports, MagSafe, etc.), many MacBook users criticize Apple, but at the same time, when Apple removes highly useful things on the iPhone (such as the headphone jack, the home button, and the rumored upcoming removal of the charging port), many iPhone users praise Apple?

Do many iPhone users have an aversion to better functionality?
i cant say much about macbooks because the last macbook i had was the 1st gen MBP Retina with touchbar. and about iphones,i have OCD so the less buttons and ports the better. so it actually depends on the person. but im sure most people would complain about the removal of the headphone jack. i dont even like the silent switch. but its there so i cant really complain.
 
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svanstrom

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Why is it, at least on this forum, when Apple removes highly useful things on MacBooks (such as SD card readers, USB ports, MagSafe, etc.), many MacBook users criticize Apple, but at the same time, when Apple removes highly useful things on the iPhone (such as the headphone jack, the home button, and the rumored upcoming removal of the charging port), many iPhone users praise Apple?
Different devices, different usage.

I don't need headphone jacks anywhere, the home button wastes area useful for actually displaying things, and the charging port… I would miss only if wireless chargers slower.

OTOH I wouldn't miss not having to carry an SD-card donglethingie, would love to just leave a (half size) SD-card permanently in the port, would feel more relaxed with a proper magsafe that disconnects rather than send my US$4k device flying.

So your whole concept of "useful things" is just straight up flawed, for most of us.
 

ericwn

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There have been lots of people on both sides of either argument. As well as there are plenty of arguments against bringing back ports like hdmi and as cards as well.
 

Spudlicious

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Why is it, at least on this forum, when Apple removes highly useful things on MacBooks (such as SD card readers, USB ports, MagSafe, etc.), many MacBook users criticize Apple, but at the same time, when Apple removes highly useful things on the iPhone (such as the headphone jack, the home button, and the rumored upcoming removal of the charging port), many iPhone users praise Apple?

Do many iPhone users have an aversion to better functionality?

I really think MacBook users and iPhone users especially in this forum are the same group of people, certainly I have a spectrum of Apple products. The changes Apple has made to iPhone design happen to suit me; I appreciate edge-to-edge screens, loathe the Home button, love Face ID, and no functionality has been lost by losing the headphone socket; you can still use headphones. If the charging port is lost I'm cool about that because contactless charging is so much more convenient, why would I want to be ramming a plug into my phone? I don't do it now, so why do I care if the port slips into history? Others, people who are out and about all day and find it convenient to connect a power pack when needed, may have a different perspective.

As a MacBook user I slightly regret the loss of much that made my 2015 Pro so valued, (oh how I loved the MagSafe power connection!) but I recently changed to an M1 Air - just two USB-C sockets - and I'm managing without too much pain. Change is bound to happen, simple as that.
 

DeepIn2U

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May 30, 2002
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Different devices, different usage.

I don't need headphone jacks anywhere, the home button wastes area useful for actually displaying things, and the charging port… I would miss only if wireless chargers slower.

OTOH I wouldn't miss not having to carry an SD-card donglethingie, would love to just leave a (half size) SD-card permanently in the port, would feel more relaxed with a proper magsafe that disconnects rather than send my US$4k device flying.

So your whole concept of "useful things" is just straight up flawed, for most of us.

the funny thing here is your, anyone is, more likely to send your iPhone flying quicker & more often than your laptop.
 

svanstrom

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the funny thing here is your, anyone is, more likely to send your iPhone flying quicker & more often than your laptop.
In the case of my MBP I don't care if my iPhone is more likely to go flying anywhere, I just don't want it to be likely at all that my MBP goes flying.

Also, my iPhone I can replace with an old one within about as many minutes as a sync happens; but even ignoring the bloated battery in my newest old MBP I don't want to return to that old hardware (and I sure as hell don't want to spend US$4k to replace my current one simply because the bloody wire didn't disconnect).
 

DeepIn2U

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May 30, 2002
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In the case of my MBP I don't care if my iPhone is more likely to go flying anywhere, I just don't want it to be likely at all that my MBP goes flying.

Also, my iPhone I can replace with an old one within about as many minutes as a sync happens; but even ignoring the bloated battery in my newest old MBP I don't want to return to that old hardware (and I sure as hell don't want to spend US$4k to replace my current one simply because the bloody wire didn't disconnect).

Solid points.

However You can still go back to old hardware, older OS and MOST if not ALL your apps (unless Rosetta 2 or native to M1 chip) are and will be compatible - even going beyond 5yrs.

I have apps still in my iOS store history that for kicks I logged into an iPhone 4S 64GB I have (which works perfectly) and MANY apps I currently have, been updated by developers that NONE have kept older versions in the App Store and thus no longer compatible with iOS 7. Wit’s older OSX and MBP - the core OS is STILL available for download from Apple (including their latest security updates for those OS’ and firmwares and your old software if you have a time machine backup - is STILL available for full use).

Therein lies the major differences, but yes much easier, cheaper (to an extent under AppleCare+) to replace the iPhone.

Again you have solid points for all to pontificate over.
 
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