This New York Post article claims that Apple is rumored to be developing a "professional" iPod for DJ's:
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A DJ iPod?
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It seems that the closer we get to WWDC, the more different rumors are coming out. This is shapping up to be a huge show. Before most of the macworlds, you would get a lot of info about the same stuff. Cool.
P-Worm
P-Worm
Apple seems more hip to what DJs are doing with Macs and MP3s. At least that's what the addition of BPM (Beats Per Minute) in iTunes 4 means to me.
It won't do me any good, but it would be neat for those professionals. Now if they could build in a mixer...
It won't do me any good, but it would be neat for those professionals. Now if they could build in a mixer...
Would be interesting to know how they'd easily and quickly let the DJ adjust the mp3/ACC. Most are accustomed to pitch sliders and touching either the record or platter to blend in the track while beat matching.
I have both the original 5GB scroll wheel and the new 10GB 3rd generation touch wheel pod and the scroll felt more natural to handle to me.
I suppose Apple or some third party could introduce some sort of super dock that allow more control over the mix.
I have both the original 5GB scroll wheel and the new 10GB 3rd generation touch wheel pod and the scroll felt more natural to handle to me.
I suppose Apple or some third party could introduce some sort of super dock that allow more control over the mix.
Honestly, Kyle..
Seriously, this is not cool, it's not cool.
I really don't think DJs are gonna use mp3s/aac
cds are okay since there are proper cd dj systems (such as the pioneer thingy), but I myself couldn't think of a dj that played the tunes from an ipod (or two).
still, it would be kinda spectacular
still, it's not cool, kyle, it's not cool mmkay?
Seriously, this is not cool, it's not cool.
I really don't think DJs are gonna use mp3s/aac
cds are okay since there are proper cd dj systems (such as the pioneer thingy), but I myself couldn't think of a dj that played the tunes from an ipod (or two).still, it would be kinda spectacular
still, it's not cool, kyle, it's not cool mmkay?
This would be perfect for a local DJ service my friends are starting.... I dunno if it would be right for our needs, but still cool..
hm somethings fishy...
a 'professional' ipod would have to be nothing like the current ipod. there is no way youd get a DJ mixing up two pods (as they are today) to a mixer and DJing. Theyd get laughed out of the venue.
However, if Apple would release a mixing station based on the harddisk and/or airport for fileserving then this would be very cool indeed. Something I think people would be interested in. Carrying those records around aint fun hehe.
Have a good one
a 'professional' ipod would have to be nothing like the current ipod. there is no way youd get a DJ mixing up two pods (as they are today) to a mixer and DJing. Theyd get laughed out of the venue.
However, if Apple would release a mixing station based on the harddisk and/or airport for fileserving then this would be very cool indeed. Something I think people would be interested in. Carrying those records around aint fun hehe.
Have a good one
It would have to use a better output. Maybe if they found a nice way to add on a +4 level out.
Dan
Dan
Re: hm somethings fishy...
I'm no expert, but this sounds right to me. People expect DJs to have records, turntables- big, impressive set-ups. Maybe it makes no sense, but I would feel a little cheated if I went to a club and instead saw some guy just standing there with an ipod in his hands. The DJ is part of the show...
Originally posted by pfranzen
a 'professional' ipod would have to be nothing like the current ipod. there is no way youd get a DJ mixing up two pods (as they are today) to a mixer and DJing. Theyd get laughed out of the venue.
However, if Apple would release a mixing station based on the harddisk and/or airport for fileserving then this would be very cool indeed. Something I think people would be interested in. Carrying those records around aint fun hehe.
Have a good one
I'm no expert, but this sounds right to me. People expect DJs to have records, turntables- big, impressive set-ups. Maybe it makes no sense, but I would feel a little cheated if I went to a club and instead saw some guy just standing there with an ipod in his hands. The DJ is part of the show...
sound quality....
I'm not sure I agree with the 'bad' quality of the AAC encoding for two reasons...
First, in my opinion it sounds excellent when compared to CD even at low compression of 160k. We did some tests on studio equipment and decided its good enough for our businesses non DJ areas.
Secondly, you can keep the compression as high as you want on the file to suit your tastes. You could even take the digital file from the CD uncompressed. Storage would be the big issue then...
Just my 2 pennies worth
I'm not sure I agree with the 'bad' quality of the AAC encoding for two reasons...
First, in my opinion it sounds excellent when compared to CD even at low compression of 160k. We did some tests on studio equipment and decided its good enough for our businesses non DJ areas.
Secondly, you can keep the compression as high as you want on the file to suit your tastes. You could even take the digital file from the CD uncompressed. Storage would be the big issue then...
Just my 2 pennies worth
iTunes is great...
Oh and by the way...We have started to experiment with iTunes for playback of Music in our restaurants and Bars and it is great.
We have to buy the CDs of course, but instead of buying the same disc 5 times due to scratching and theft we buy it once and store it as a backup.
Also, the amount of grime that gets into the CD players in my industry is crazy so the cost of serving big 200+ CD changers is a thing of the past...
Anyone else in here in the Bar/Club game and doing this?
Oh and by the way...We have started to experiment with iTunes for playback of Music in our restaurants and Bars and it is great.
We have to buy the CDs of course, but instead of buying the same disc 5 times due to scratching and theft we buy it once and store it as a backup.
Also, the amount of grime that gets into the CD players in my industry is crazy so the cost of serving big 200+ CD changers is a thing of the past...
Anyone else in here in the Bar/Club game and doing this?
OH NO!
Another option for DJs? Aggghh! One more tool someone can decide to use or not use? NOOOOOO! Apple, what are you doing? Please stop giving us all more options in the way we live our lives!
That's all I have to say about that...
Another option for DJs? Aggghh! One more tool someone can decide to use or not use? NOOOOOO! Apple, what are you doing? Please stop giving us all more options in the way we live our lives!
That's all I have to say about that...
would be great!
That really would be very fine! You would just use one iPod like a Turntable.
So you need two pro ipods, and a separate mixer.
So you have the same setup, as with two turntables and a mixer.
It just needs pitch bend from -8 to +8%, like a normal technics, and some scratching capatibilities.
Maybe a real cool idea, with the original scroll wheel! I would love it!
cu,
Baboon
That really would be very fine! You would just use one iPod like a Turntable.
So you need two pro ipods, and a separate mixer.
So you have the same setup, as with two turntables and a mixer.
It just needs pitch bend from -8 to +8%, like a normal technics, and some scratching capatibilities.
Maybe a real cool idea, with the original scroll wheel! I would love it!
cu,
Baboon
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evilfunkgenius
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Ok, let's think out of the iPod box here:
What if they were going to find a way to automatically sync-up songs with similar BPM settings. (remember that new iTunes 4 addition?) and thus remove the need for a hardware pitch wheel, thereby making an iPod easily mixable. All that would need to happen is setting up a internal crossfade adjustment.
What if they were going to find a way to automatically sync-up songs with similar BPM settings. (remember that new iTunes 4 addition?) and thus remove the need for a hardware pitch wheel, thereby making an iPod easily mixable. All that would need to happen is setting up a internal crossfade adjustment.
Damn thats cool... hard to believe, but cool. But with uncompressed files the DJ's gonna be walking in with a crate full of ipods.
it's not that bad....
i would think, if anything, that some sort of apple pro-pod would not be a different kind of iPod, but some sort of hardware dock with dj-style controls on it. Imagine it.... a hole in the top of the unit for an iPod, and a control surface with your familiar crossfader, pitch controls, source select.... perhaps a small LCD on each side to select individual tracks for each side of the fader.... In addition, there could be line-level and phono inputs on the back so in addition to iPod playback, you could hook up an external CD or record player and be able to fade to those as well.
i think it would be foolish for apple to introduce a different version of the iPod, as they seem to be very much about avoiding consumer confusion (eliminating seperate windows and mac versions of the iPod, etc.... something i wish they would do in the rest of their product lines)
i would think, if anything, that some sort of apple pro-pod would not be a different kind of iPod, but some sort of hardware dock with dj-style controls on it. Imagine it.... a hole in the top of the unit for an iPod, and a control surface with your familiar crossfader, pitch controls, source select.... perhaps a small LCD on each side to select individual tracks for each side of the fader.... In addition, there could be line-level and phono inputs on the back so in addition to iPod playback, you could hook up an external CD or record player and be able to fade to those as well.
i think it would be foolish for apple to introduce a different version of the iPod, as they seem to be very much about avoiding consumer confusion (eliminating seperate windows and mac versions of the iPod, etc.... something i wish they would do in the rest of their product lines)