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A few iOS questions

James83448

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I've never owned an iPhone, I've had an Android for 6 years so I apologise for my ignorance in advance. I do however, plan to buy the next iPhone and migrate away from Google period.

I see all of my friends swiping away unused apps, closing them down and removing them from RAM (I guess?). Does iOS not handle multitasking well?! With my Nexus 4 running Lollipop (and since Jellybean probably) I've never had to close unused apps in this way, the multi-tasking is handled by the OS - is this not the same in iOS?

Notifications. These seem very different in iOS. In Android, I can respond to individual notifications, and once I do, they are removed from the notifications. In iOS (and also on my Mac), it seems that when a notification is actioned, it remains in your notifications until you click the little cross next to the app? Is this correct? I can't verify as have no iOS device.

Also, when doing a spotlight search, it seems that sometimes, "Search on web" is present, whereas other times it's not. Any idea why?
 

AndyK

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Don't swipe away apps, it's pointless & removes said app from memory, when you reload the app it now has to fully reload itself thus using more processor time and reducing battery life. The only time its useful to do so is if the app crashes or seems choppy, swipe closing then relaunching is a decent first try fix.

Yes that's how notifications work.

I've no idea about the search thing, I never use it.
 
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mukow

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Notifications. These seem very different in iOS. In Android, I can respond to individual notifications, and once I do, they are removed from the notifications. In iOS (and also on my Mac), it seems that when a notification is actioned, it remains in your notifications until you click the little cross next to the app? Is this correct? I can't verify as have no iOS device.

It is up to the app itself to remove notifications & app badges. Unfortunately, a lot of third-party apps are sloppy at this, but Apple provides the means for the app to deal with them.
 
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James83448

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Do the stock Apple apps remove the notifications?

I'll have to get used to manually removing the notifications, but I'm sure I'll live with it!
 
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AndyK

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Do the stock Apple apps remove the notifications?

I'll have to get used to manually removing the notifications, but I'm sure I'll live with it!

If it's an app you don't use or want notifications for, just disable its notifications in settings.
 
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afsnyder

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Do the stock Apple apps remove the notifications?

I'll have to get used to manually removing the notifications, but I'm sure I'll live with it!

I haven't really had a problem with an excess of notifications. I usually address them right away.
 
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AmazingTechGeek

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Don't swipe away apps, it's pointless & removes said app from memory, when you reload the app it now has to fully reload itself thus using more processor time and reducing battery life.
How can you confirm this?
 
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Do the stock Apple apps remove the notifications?

I'll have to get used to manually removing the notifications, but I'm sure I'll live with it!
Well when you open the app for which notifications might exist that will generally clear out the notifications as well. If you don't want to open the app then you can clear them from Notification Center yourself.
 
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Planey28

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Do the stock Apple apps remove the notifications?

I'll have to get used to manually removing the notifications, but I'm sure I'll live with it!

The notifications on iOS don't work exactly the same as they do on the Mac. If you read a message in mail it's removed from notification centre on iOS; it isn't always on the Mac. Not sure if that's a bug in OS X or by design.

You'll never really find yourself manually removing notifications on iOS like you do on the Mac.
 
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Shirasaki

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The notifications on iOS don't work exactly the same as they do on the Mac. If you read a message in mail it's removed from notification centre on iOS; it isn't always on the Mac. Not sure if that's a bug in OS X or by design.

You'll never really find yourself manually removing notifications on iOS like you do on the Mac.
If what I remembered was correct, I would still need to remove notifications generated by third party apps. And this is even applicable for stock apps.
 
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James83448

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That's a bit of a pain!

I went ahead and bought an iPhone today, so I'm sure I'll get used to them!
 
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James83448

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Yeah iPhone 6 today. Ordered it from the store online. Bad timing? I think not. Here's why.

The only upgrades that I've seen (rumoured also!) is a 12MP camera, faster processor, Force Touch, 2GB RAM and improved TouchID.

12MP camera will have negligible improvements over the 8MP iPhone 6 camera, apart from low-light photos.

Faster Processor will be clocked at a higher speed, but I doubt the real world gains will be noticeable.

Force Touch sounds like a gimmick. I've used it on Macs and don't think it's great. It will take time before app developers figure out useful ways to implement and use FT within their apps. This won't happen on release, and will take quite some time. App developers will probably not implement FT uniformly across different apps, so using FT on one app, will produce totally different results than within another app. Very confusing.

2GB RAM. The more the merrier!

Improved Touch ID isn't a feature worth waiting for.

The main reason I bought the 6, and didn't wait for the 6s is because of time. I don't want to have to wait until October (realistically) for the 6s to be shipped. It won't be noticeably improved over the 6. I am holding out for the 7, and upgrading every 2 years, rather than getting any 'S' iterations.
 
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James83448

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I could have waited ~9 weeks to see how the 6s compares, but I know it won't be a huge improvement. My Nexus 4 is dying now so I could do with a new phone now. They will only reduce the 6 buy a few hundred dollars (NZD) when the 6s is released. So for the sake of a few hundred dollars, I made the right decision in buying the 6, rather than waiting for the 6s.
 
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Shirasaki

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Yeah iPhone 6 today. Ordered it from the store online. Bad timing? I think not. Here's why.

The only upgrades that I've seen (rumoured also!) is a 12MP camera, faster processor, Force Touch, 2GB RAM and improved TouchID.

12MP camera will have negligible improvements over the 8MP iPhone 6 camera, apart from low-light photos.

Faster Processor will be clocked at a higher speed, but I doubt the real world gains will be noticeable.

Force Touch sounds like a gimmick. I've used it on Macs and don't think it's great. It will take time before app developers figure out useful ways to implement and use FT within their apps. This won't happen on release, and will take quite some time. App developers will probably not implement FT uniformly across different apps, so using FT on one app, will produce totally different results than within another app. Very confusing.

2GB RAM. The more the merrier!

Improved Touch ID isn't a feature worth waiting for.

The main reason I bought the 6, and didn't wait for the 6s is because of time. I don't want to have to wait until October (realistically) for the 6s to be shipped. It won't be noticeably improved over the 6. I am holding out for the 7, and upgrading every 2 years, rather than getting any 'S' iterations.
Talking about upgrade, camera may be a selling point, but not really. Force touch is similar. I don't think force touch would be available widely before iOS 10. And one of my game may go completely mess if force touch is activated. Better touch screen would welcome, though. I cannot test it on demo iPhone in store.

For ram, I believe, if Apple can add something more on ram, such as higher speed, that would be better. Improved touch ID would be a deal for me since I use touch ID frequently.

But yes. Initial release of new iPhone would always be a pain, like Apple watch.

I upgrade from iPhone 4 to 6 plus. I think it is great. I hope I can use more ram on iohone 6, but Apple didn't release it, in this generation. I think next time I should upgrade when iOS 12 is available. :) . And there would be a new device released.
 
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James83448

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The images produced by the new camera will most likely be better, but again, the differences will be hard to tell to the human eye, apart from if the image is blown up on a poster.

Yes, I agree that RAM would be important, and if I'm honest it's the only reason that I would buy the 6s. Even having 2GB of RAM, I'm not sure how much the OS and apps would benefit, unless using image/video processing apps or games.

I will only upgrade to the full editions of the iPhone in future, no S editions.

Having said that, if the 6s is jaw dropping, and has unexpected features, then I'll trade my 6 for a 6s.
 
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Shirasaki

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The images produced by the new camera will most likely be better, but again, the differences will be hard to tell to the human eye, apart from if the image is blown up on a poster.

Yes, I agree that RAM would be important, and if I'm honest it's the only reason that I would buy the 6s. Even having 2GB of RAM, I'm not sure how much the OS and apps would benefit, unless using image/video processing apps or games.

I will only upgrade to the full editions of the iPhone in future, no S editions.

Having said that, if the 6s is jaw dropping, and has unexpected features, then I'll trade my 6 for a 6s.
For heavy safari user, ram is directly linked to user experience. More ram means fewer reload, and more tabs keeping open on Safari.

I don't think iPhone 6s will have some astonishing features hiding behind all what we know from rumours. But who knows? For example news app and notes app, I think this is something beyond expectation. Of course software leak is more difficult than hardware.
 
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James83448

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The News app and Notes app are on iOS9 and not limited to the iPhone 6s/+.
 
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