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A few New Canon items

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Canon's EOS 600D DSLR

Canon has unveiled the 18-million-pixel EOS 600D, an improved version of the EOS 550D with a flip-out 3in screen and features designed to win over compact camera users.

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u..._hook_wider_audience_update2_news_305485.html

Canon reveals EOS 1100D

Canon is poised to unleash the EOS 1100D, a 12.2MP DSLR designed to replace the 10.1MP entry-level EOS 1000D announced nearly three years ago.

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u..._1100D_as_women_flood_market_news_305486.html

Canon Speedlite flashgun in 'video light' first

Canon has unwrapped the Speedlite 270EX II and 320EX Speedlite flashguns, the latter boasting an additional LED light aimed at photographers who also shoot video.

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...lashgun_in_video_light_first_news_305488.html

EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x

The EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x is being developed following feedback from photojournalists, says Canon.

Delivering an increased focal length of '280-560mm', it should also be suitable for sports and wildlife photographers, however. - yes you read right a 200-400 with built in 1.4x!

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...with_builtin_extender_update_news_305487.html
 
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1DsIV? 5D3? 24-70 f/2.8 L IS? 35 f/1.4 L II?

How many Rebels have been introduced since the 5D2 was released?
 
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The 600D looks like a nice incremental update. However, it's a pity that Canon doesn't update the viewfinder (small at 0.85x and a darker pentamirror-type).
 
There was also new prime telephotos - 500 and 600mm announced. Combine that with last year, and you've got a refresh of basically every pro-level telephoto. Wonder why that is? Is it because the 2012 Olympics are round the corner?

Damn skippy it is. Yes updates are needed at the wider end of the range, but Canon need to get that long L glass out to the users before the Olympics start, and that is why we haven't seen much going on with the wides.

5D Mark III will be this summer/autumn, and possibly the 1Ds IV. The real money is made in the cheaper bodies (ie: sell in volume to many, not a handful to the pros), which is why the low-end bodies refresh so much faster.
 
i don't think one LED will be enough if needing an external light for video...
The lens looks pretty interesting.. too bad i don't shoot canon/have a nice budget ;)
 
What I find most peculiar is the new kit lenses announced. Apart from the IS II, there's also the third revision of the unstabilised version...
 
Edge100 said:
1DsIV? 5D3? 24-70 f/2.8 L IS? 35 f/1.4 L II?
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The 5D looks to have a 3 year update cycle so Autumn 2011 most likely there.

As for lenses, looks as if they are concentrating on big stuff at the moment (200-400, 500, 600). Personally I'd rather things were developed slower, but working.
 
Wonder what they will call the 1100D in the US. Rebel T3?

Shame it only came out now, had it been available last month, it would have been a very good option.
 
Hisdem said:
Wonder what they will call the 1100D in the US. Rebel T3?
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I wonder why they don't use the xxxD/xxxxD numbering scheme they're using here in Europe. My brain simply can't memorize which camera is which: is the T2 better than the XSi or not? ;)

Canon has a much more intelligible numbering scheme on the high end (I prefer 1D Mark # to D70 --> D70s --> D80 --> D90 --> D7000 --> ???), I wonder why they don't use it on the low-end as well.
 
OreoCookie said:
I wonder why they don't use the xxxD/xxxxD numbering scheme they're using here in Europe. My brain simply can't memorize which camera is which: is the T2 better than the XSi or not? ;)
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I actually do like the Europe scheme better too. Just got used to the US (and Latin American). BTW the T2 is awesome :rolleyes:
 
Kebabselector said:
EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x

The EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x is being developed following feedback from photojournalists, says Canon.

Delivering an increased focal length of '280-560mm', it should also be suitable for sports and wildlife photographers, however. - yes you read right a 200-400 with built in 1.4x!

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...with_builtin_extender_update_news_305487.html
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This is very interesting, but it makes me wonder... How do they provide a built-in 1.4x extender with an on/off switch? How does it impact optical qualities when on and off? Bizarre. :confused:

EDIT: Answered my own question, I think... it looks like the bulge will on the side will allow the TC optics to swing out like the chamber on a revolver. Cool!

BTW, price speculation seems to be around $6-7K based on Nikon's offering! :eek:
 
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I hope the price listings in British Pounds is wrong on the lenses. I converted them to USD and the 500mm comes out to $14,500 and the 600 is $18,000!

Canon's current most expensive lens is the 800mm L at ~ $12,500

Current prices at B&H for the "old" ones are $6,500 and $8,800 respectively.

The 200-400 is an odd bird. The swing-out extender adds more mechanics and/or electronics in the lens. The 100-400 f/4.5 IS with the Mark 3 extender totals $2100.

Dale
 
Hisdem said:
True. What makes me mad though is that the 1100D still doesn't have any kind of image stabilization, and it comes with a lens that doesn't either.
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I guess this just proves my theory that the DSLR market (entry to mid and maybe even high end) is saturated and there's nothing more they can do.

Canon is still using "Digic 4" processors and Nikon FINALLY got out Exspeed 2 processors.

We all know the MP war is over. Not much else they can do there.

AF systems. A little bit there, but basically the same song and dance.

So what are Canon and Nikon to do? Add swivel screens and dual memory card slots...:rolleyes:

EVIL cameras will be the next big thing. My D7000 may well be my last big body DSLR.
 
Designer Dale said:
I hope the price listings in British Pounds is wrong on the lenses. I converted them to USD and the 500mm comes out to $14,500 and the 600 is $18,000!

Canon's current most expensive lens is the 800mm L at ~ $12,500

Current prices at B&H for the "old" ones are $6,500 and $8,800 respectively.

The 200-400 is an odd bird. The swing-out extender adds more mechanics and/or electronics in the lens. The 100-400 f/4.5 IS with the Mark 3 extender totals $2100.

Dale
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I guess because the $2500 70-200 II sold so well, they decided to just over price the whole line.
 
Hisdem said:
True. What makes me mad though is that the 1100D still doesn't have any kind of image stabilization, and it comes with a lens that doesn't either.
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I think it does come with the IS lens. This is from Canon's official press release: "Pricing and Availability
The Canon EOS Rebel T3 Digital SLR camera is scheduled to be delivered to U.S. dealers at the end of March, and will be offered in a kit with Canon's new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $599.99.

New Kit Lenses
Along with these DSLR cameras, Canon is also introducing a new kit lens, the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II zoom lens, the standard kit lens for both the Rebel T3i kit configuration and the Rebel T3 kit configuration.

The new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II zoom lens features the wide-angle to mid-range zoom flexibility with the advantage of Canon's optical lens-shift image stabilization system that yields up to a full four stops of image-shake correction. The version II of this lens includes new IS algorithms to distinguish between normal photographing and when the camera is panning to automatically provide the optimal level of image-shake correction."

My guess is that the first paragraph is a typo. The XS (1000D) comes with the IS lens, so it wouldn't make sense for the T3 (1100D) to not.

If someone else has other information, please enlighten me.

Source: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_canon?pageKeyCode=pressreldetail&docId=0901e0248028433f

Edit: it is listed on Canon's site as coming with the 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS II
 
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rusty2192 said:
I think it does come with the IS lens. This is from Canon's official press release: "Pricing and Availability
The Canon EOS Rebel T3 Digital SLR camera is scheduled to be delivered to U.S. dealers at the end of March, and will be offered in a kit with Canon's new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $599.99.

New Kit Lenses
Along with these DSLR cameras, Canon is also introducing a new kit lens, the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II zoom lens, the standard kit lens for both the Rebel T3i kit configuration and the Rebel T3 kit configuration.

The new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II zoom lens features the wide-angle to mid-range zoom flexibility with the advantage of Canon's optical lens-shift image stabilization system that yields up to a full four stops of image-shake correction. The version II of this lens includes new IS algorithms to distinguish between normal photographing and when the camera is panning to automatically provide the optimal level of image-shake correction."

My guess is that the first paragraph is a typo. The XS (1000D) comes with the IS lens, so it wouldn't make sense for the T3 (1100D) to not.

If someone else has other information, please enlighten me.

Source: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_canon?pageKeyCode=pressreldetail&docId=0901e0248028433f
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I see. However, the Rebel XS lens was not IS, or at least didn't have the stabilizer switch on it, which is what makes me think about it. Honestly, I can't see why Canon wouldn't add this, basically every competitor to the 1100D has this, either built-in (Sony) or in the kit lens (Nikon).
 
VirtualRain said:
This is very interesting, but it makes me wonder... How do they provide a built-in 1.4x extender with an on/off switch? How does it impact optical qualities when on and off? Bizarre. :confused:

EDIT: Answered my own question, I think... it looks like the bulge will on the side will allow the TC optics to swing out like the chamber on a revolver. Cool!

BTW, price speculation seems to be around $6-7K based on Nikon's offering! :eek:
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Well, if Nikon's 200-400 and the 1.4x TC is anything to judge by, optics will be perfectly fine. I've had lots of super-sharp images at 560mm using the Nikon combination (VR Mk.1 version of the 200-400mm on D700/D3S).

This is brilliant thinking by Canon - it's time consuming to swap in the TC, not only that, it also increases the risk of dusk getting in the camera. Having it built in, and designed so you can switch it in when needed is the ultimate combination.

Canon obviously did some research on how people will use this kind of lens. It'd be ideal for airshows.

Also of note, the weight of all these new large-size Canon telephotos - they are all remarkably light for their huge size. Take the 800mm F/5.6L - not bad for such a giant lens, and I've heard feedback from people who've used the 600mm, and they all suggest the 800mm is far better and more practical.

OreoCookie said:
Wow, this is crazy!
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When you get away from the USA, you get ripped off with camera and lens purchases. It cost me AUD$7100 for a Nikon D3S, and AUD$10,300 for a 200-400mm AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor. At the same time I got the D3S, the D3X was AUD$10,999. Outrageous. :( But if I'm not mistaken, the EU has a pretty big VAT added to purchases as well. I should mention, when I got the D3S, the AUD$ was almost busting parity with the US Dollar too. Yes I know, all the stock was brought in when the dollar was poorer, but still. :( Yikes. I however did have the Nikon internal prices for a while, so I was able to crowbar some retailers into chopping their prices (reluctantly) - but it doesn't help you when a particular product is mostly sold out and one retailer is the only one who has the product in stock and not back-ordered.
 
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avro707 said:
When you get away from the USA, you get ripped off with camera and lens purchases. It cost me AUD$7100 for a Nikon D3S, and AUD$10,300 for a 200-400mm AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor. At the same time I got the D3S, the D3X was AUD$10,999. Outrageous. :( But if I'm not mistaken, the EU has a pretty big VAT added to purchases as well.
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Exactly. Hell, a T2i will cost you $2,700 here, it's just crazy.
 
Designer Dale said:
I hope the price listings in British Pounds is wrong on the lenses.
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The prices quoted are Canon's usual unrealistic retail price:

Item-------------Canon RRP------Real
EF135mm L -----£1,360---------£868.08
EF300mm F/4----£1,740---------£1049.00
EF800mm--------£15,260---------£9799.00

Still more expensive than the US prices, but remember our price includes 20% tax.

The 200-400 is an odd bird. The swing-out extender adds more mechanics and/or electronics in the lens. The 100-400 f/4.5 IS with the Mark 3 extender totals $2100.

Dale
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The 100-400 isn't a constant aperture lens like the 200-400 that's where a fair amount of the price increase goes.

Avro707 said:
Canon obviously did some research on how people will use this kind of lens. It'd be ideal for airshows.
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They must have had a look at their video camera division!

linky
 
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The 100-400mm won't be anywhere near as sharp either. And the fact that the aperture won't remain at F/4.0 is a bit of a problem if you intend to do more extreme photography in low light. Unless you have 1D Mk.IV and usd ISO8000 all the time. ;)

I'd love to try the 200-400mm Canon lens with a 1D Mk.IV.. Although I'm glued to Nikon permanently, I used to use Canon back in the film days.

Kebabselector: Indeed.
 
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