A little help needed

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by iNeko, May 13, 2007.

  1. iNeko macrumors regular

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    Hi guys, just a quick intro, I switched to Mac OS about a year ago and I've been reading this site since. So far, my experience has been great (both Macs have been perfect) however I've come across something I can't figure out on my own (or find an answer using the forum search), so I had to register and ask.

    It started a few weeks ago on my Mac Mini, I was using it normally then I noticed all of a sudden all the "f"s, "i"s, "t"s and "s"s went missing from the dock menus and application titles ("__nue_", "_how _n _inder" and "_hu__le" etc) - I thought "ah, I need to rebuild my font cache" so I nuked it using Oynx and the problem went away.

    However it's started again - but it's now happening on both my Mac Mini and Macbook Pro - today I was browsing the internet movie database on BonEcho looking up actors and all the "b"s were missing - I nuked the font cache on the MBP and restarted which seems to have fixed it - however, I just wondered if anyone knew what was causing it or if there was a way I could fix it.

    Also, sorry if it has been brought up before and I missed it while searching :eek:
     
  2. epochblue macrumors 68000

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    I haven't the foggiest idea - that's a wild problem. I'll Google around a little, though to see if I turn up anything..
     
  3. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Starting with the basics, do you have any theme changers installed or have you changed any system fonts? Have you modified the fonts at all? Have you tried resolving duplicates from Font Book (Edit menu, from memory)? :)
     
  4. synth3tik macrumors 68040

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    The only thing I can think happened would be something dealing with a theme or a broken font.

    Did you try running disk utility before ONYX?

    You maybe able to repair permissions to fix the issue if it was caused by a broken font or a OS theme.

    It's always a good idea to try and repair something using disk utility first. Most software developers writing utility programs agree.

    Good luck getting you macs running right, and if you do find out whats happening I would be interesting in knowing what exactly went on inside those computers.
     
  5. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Sounds like it might be a bad font file to me, also. Try opening Font Book (in the utils folder), highlighting all fonts in the middle column, and selecting File-> Validate to see if there are any corruptions obvious in the font files. It's slightly confusing, but you look at the icon to the right of the font name -- it always says "problems may have been found..." even if all fonts pass inspection (silly! :rolleyes: ).

    Anyway, see if that turns up anything? :)
     
  6. iNeko thread starter macrumors regular

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    Ah! I forgot to mention that, I've shuffled through Font Book, and also Disk Utility (repair permissions was the first thing I did, plus I regularly verify them) I was using Uno on the Mac Mini - however I had removed it (for some reason I like the windows to be different - I know what they all do just by looking at them that way) maybe that might have juggled some files around.

    I did wonder if it could be a preferences problem though...
     
  7. iNeko thread starter macrumors regular

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    eek. Something new tonight - a kernel panic, I've had a few of these (usually when I unplug an iPod from the mini when it's sleeping) but this was in normal operation...

    I'm getting a bit concerned about this machine now...

    Here's the log, I understand core 1 came across an unrecoverable error - but I'm not sure what...
    Code:
    panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A429B): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 6=invalid opcode), registers:
    CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x0052dffc, CR3: 0x00d7c000, CR4: 0x000006e0
    EAX: 0x02a6b940, EBX: 0x00000018, ECX: 0x004ae958, EDX: 0x029ee240
    CR2: 0x140dbc08, EBP: 0x140dbc48, ESI: 0x00000003, EDI: 0x0399f200
    EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x029ee2f6, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x02910010
    
    Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
    0x140dba78 : 0x128d08 (0x3cb134 0x140dba9c 0x131de5 0x0) 
    0x140dbab8 : 0x1a429b (0x3d0e4c 0x1 0x6 0x3d05e8) 
    0x140dbbc8 : 0x19ada4 (0x140dbbd4 0xe 0x140d0048 0x120010) 
    0x140dbc48 : 0x3c0e94 (0x399f200 0x29182c0 0x0 0x3c10ef) 
    0x140dbc68 : 0x3c188a (0x29182c0 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbca8 : 0x3c18f7 (0x29182c0 0x3993600 0x2c42f40 0x1628d8) 
    0x140dbce8 : 0x38663c (0x28e3b40 0x0 0x140dbd28 0x3c1002) 
    0x140dbd08 : 0x389e5b (0x2b48780 0x2c83bc0 0x0 0x2b48780) 
    0x140dbd28 : 0x3b1448 (0x2b48780 0x2c83bc0 0x140dbd58 0x3bdfd9) 
    0x140dbd78 : 0x188511 (0x2b48780 0x2f974b4 0x2f974c8 0x11cc32) 
    0x140dbdb8 : 0x12b4c3 (0x34713b4 0x2f97498 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbdf8 : 0x124b17 (0x3471300 0x0 0x18 0x140dbedc) 
    0x140dbf08 : 0x195a42 (0x140dbf44 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbfc8 : 0x19b21e (0x2ff54c8 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x2ff54c8) No mapping exists for frame pointer
    Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb02204e8
     
  8. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Is there more to the log file? Do you have third party RAM? Disk Utility was mentioned before, have you tried verifying and possibly repairing your hard drive? Also, get everything backed up as soon as possible. That should be your first priority. :)
     
  9. iNeko thread starter macrumors regular

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    The only other information in the log was the Mac Mini's specs - it felt a lot shorter than normal when I looked at it... (I'll post the full one at the bottom)

    I've done the extended AHT - everything is fine, it has apple installed ram, and the harddrive according to Disk Util is also fine (SMART check passed, as did verifying)...

    Maybe I'll Archive and Install - a fresh OS might be what this needs...

    ;) everything is backed up, on the external hard drive and the important stuff is on the macbook pro

    Code:
    panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A429B): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 6=invalid opcode), registers:
    CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x0052dffc, CR3: 0x00d7c000, CR4: 0x000006e0
    EAX: 0x02a6b940, EBX: 0x00000018, ECX: 0x004ae958, EDX: 0x029ee240
    CR2: 0x140dbc08, EBP: 0x140dbc48, ESI: 0x00000003, EDI: 0x0399f200
    EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x029ee2f6, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x02910010
    
    Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
    0x140dba78 : 0x128d08 (0x3cb134 0x140dba9c 0x131de5 0x0) 
    0x140dbab8 : 0x1a429b (0x3d0e4c 0x1 0x6 0x3d05e8) 
    0x140dbbc8 : 0x19ada4 (0x140dbbd4 0xe 0x140d0048 0x120010) 
    0x140dbc48 : 0x3c0e94 (0x399f200 0x29182c0 0x0 0x3c10ef) 
    0x140dbc68 : 0x3c188a (0x29182c0 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbca8 : 0x3c18f7 (0x29182c0 0x3993600 0x2c42f40 0x1628d8) 
    0x140dbce8 : 0x38663c (0x28e3b40 0x0 0x140dbd28 0x3c1002) 
    0x140dbd08 : 0x389e5b (0x2b48780 0x2c83bc0 0x0 0x2b48780) 
    0x140dbd28 : 0x3b1448 (0x2b48780 0x2c83bc0 0x140dbd58 0x3bdfd9) 
    0x140dbd78 : 0x188511 (0x2b48780 0x2f974b4 0x2f974c8 0x11cc32) 
    0x140dbdb8 : 0x12b4c3 (0x34713b4 0x2f97498 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbdf8 : 0x124b17 (0x3471300 0x0 0x18 0x140dbedc) 
    0x140dbf08 : 0x195a42 (0x140dbf44 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
    0x140dbfc8 : 0x19b21e (0x2ff54c8 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x2ff54c8) No mapping exists for frame pointer
    Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb02204e8
    
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 8.9.1: Thu Feb 22 20:55:00 PST 2007; root:xnu-792.18.15~1/RELEASE_I386
    
    Model: Macmini1,1, BootROM MM11.0055.B08, 2 processors, Intel Core Duo, 1.66 GHz, 1 GB
    Graphics: Intel GMA 950, GMA 950, Built-In, spdisplays_integrated_vram
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x86), 0.1.31.1
    Bluetooth: Version 1.7.14f14, 2 service, 0 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
    Serial ATA Device: ST9100824AS, 93.16 GB
    Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-846
    USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Mass Storage Device, Generic, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: iPod, Apple, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Seagate External Drive, Jabil Circuit, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: USB2.0 Card Reader, Generic, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Bluetooth HCI, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: IR Receiver, Apple Computer, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: USB Device, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA
    USB Device: USB Receiver, Logitech, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
     
  10. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Kernel panics are usually caused by the hardware so an Archive & Install most likely won't help. Even though it's Apple memory, you have two sticks so you can test it properly. Regular software-based tests are often dodgy, so take a stick out at a time and see if the problems continue. :)
     
  11. iNeko thread starter macrumors regular

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    :) I did the archive and install anyway - I must say it's brilliant, you don't lose anything in the process (well, I lost some preference panes - not hard to replace)

    and I also kicked on Rember last night to chug away on infinite loop which gave me no errors when I stopped it this morning...

    ;) taking my mini apart will be a last resort - I bought this little mac so I didn't have to tinker with it's insides. I have a fresh system on it now which is very snappy (only 6 bounces for BonEcho to start, instead of 24!) so I'll see how it goes
     

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