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A look back to a year ago and all the naysayers

spiderman0616

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So much doom and gloom about the new iPhone on these boards. It's pretty irritating. But it's all part of the upgrade cycle, and it's exactly why Apple doesn't do focus groups. It's the old joke that a camel is an example of something designed by committee. I'm not sure what else people want Apple to do with a rectangular brick of metal and plastic, but the new design and form factor are what they are. Say what you want about Steve Jobs being gone, or Jony Ives losing his touch. Plenty of people in the media will. But this happened with the 4S too. And the 4. How did those models work out for Apple.

And to put it in perspective, here are some links from last year:

http://articles.marketwatch.com/201...18_1_new-iphone-apple-executives-gsm-and-cdma

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint/124198-why-iphone-4s-failed-excite.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-iphone-market-share-2011-4

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-disappointed_n_995095.html

You guys all clamoring for some radical design change--not many of you say what you actually want them to do. There is the argument about should they stretch the phone or keep the aspect ratio the same. Besides that, what do you want Apple to do?

If recent leaks are to be believed, they've gone thinner, bigger screen, a new back design, and probably an even nicer camera, not to mention whatever the internal improvements are. I'm expecting LTE, NFC, quad core (or at least an A5X). These are all things people seem to think they want. Just like how everyone wanted a retina display iPad. Yet the second it's released, it's "boring".

I'm referring to Apple, Google, and everyone else when I say that the tech industry is not going to be revolutionary every 6 months or even every year. Someone is going to get a great idea at some point about a different way to use cellular technology.....maybe Google Glass is the next step, or at least a precursor to the next big thing, maybe it's not.

So, in short, if you're in the market for a new iPhone, get the new one. If not, don't. But I just don't understand what some of you are expecting.
 
Either keep the screen the same and thin the phone up, or make it longer and wider or just wider. Having it just elongated is weird.
 
OP - Very well said. People keep saying they want something "new" or something "sexy", but they never say what they really want. I think they just want something "different". Seems rather superficial to me.
 
britneyfan said:
Either keep the screen the same and thin the phone up, or make it longer and wider or just wider. Having it just elongated is weird.
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Not really, it'll be a 16:9 screen. Pretty much every phone uses a 16:9 screen nowadays. It's "normal".
 
Want300 said:
Someone has posted what they want...

http://www.yankodesign.com/2012/07/26/forget-iphone-5-its-time-for-iphone-6/

This is what I want too... Except, I would still prefer the Silent On/Off Switch
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And that's a great looking mockup. It really is. I would love an iPhone that looked like that.

But it's still a rectangle of glass with rounded corners. People seem to want some fundamentally different form factor. The only way we're ever going to get that is if smartphones as we know them know die and we move on to some other type of device.
 
spiderman0616 said:
And that's a great looking mockup. It really is. I would love an iPhone that looked like that.

But it's still a rectangle of glass with rounded corners. People seem to want some fundamentally different form factor. The only way we're ever going to get that is if smartphones as we know them know die and we move on to some other type of device.
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I get what you are saying, but I am not one of the people demanding some drastic change or any change at all in the form factor. I just do not want the taller screen. I want the same aspect ratio with at least a 4.3" screen (Going back to some old rumors involving LG).

The design in the link is plenty of change for me to be REALLY happy, it would be a slick looking phone.
 
I am not a big fan of the leaked design, but I am not a fan of the iPhone 4/4S design either. They have been the two best phones I've ever owned and I can't stand the form factor. I am more interested in specs and OS so I can look past it. The iPhone 4 looks like a parody of an Apple product. But it's an awesome phone, hands down better than most.

When they officially announce the new iPhone I will take a look at those specs and go from there. I already think the current model is hideous so if the leaks turn out to be true at least I have a jump start on getting used to owning an ugly phone.
 
spiderman0616 said:
You guys all clamoring for some radical design change--not many of you say what you actually want them to do.

Besides that, what do you want Apple to do?

So, in short, if you're in the market for a new iPhone, get the new one. If not, don't. But I just don't understand what some of you are expecting.
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I'm one of those hoping for Apple to do a total redesign. As far as what I expect - I trust Apple in their vision. Unfortunately, I don't know where their focus and vision will be, so I don't waste the energy trying to figure it out or voicing what I know I probably won't get (as you say, they don't do focus groups). The only reason why I think it will be a redesign is because the 4/4S is different from the 3G/3GS, so why not the next iPhone. I figure whatever they do to redesign it will be the same design for next year. I'm just looking at their pattern.
 
ET iPhone Home said:
I'm one of those hoping for Apple to do a total redesign. As far as what I expect - I trust Apple in their vision. Unfortunately, I don't know where their focus and vision will be, so I don't waste the energy trying to figure it out or voicing what I know I probably won't get. The only reason why I think it will be a redesign is because the 4/4S is different from the 3G/3GS, so why not the next iPhone. I figure whatever they do to redesign it will be the same design for next year. I'm just looking at their pattern.
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I thought the same too. The 3GS was just a stopgap to the iPhone 4. Doesn't look like it'll be the same with the 4S to the new iPhone.
 
spiderman0616 said:
So much doom and gloom about the new iPhone on these boards. It's pretty irritating. But it's all part of the upgrade cycle, and it's exactly why Apple doesn't do focus groups. It's the old joke that a camel is an example of something designed by committee. I'm not sure what else people want Apple to do with a rectangular brick of metal and plastic, but the new design and form factor are what they are. Say what you want about Steve Jobs being gone, or Jony Ives losing his touch. Plenty of people in the media will. But this happened with the 4S too. And the 4. How did those models work out for Apple.

And to put it in perspective, here are some links from last year:

http://articles.marketwatch.com/201...18_1_new-iphone-apple-executives-gsm-and-cdma

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint/124198-why-iphone-4s-failed-excite.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-iphone-market-share-2011-4

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-disappointed_n_995095.html

You guys all clamoring for some radical design change--not many of you say what you actually want them to do. There is the argument about should they stretch the phone or keep the aspect ratio the same. Besides that, what do you want Apple to do?

If recent leaks are to be believed, they've gone thinner, bigger screen, a new back design, and probably an even nicer camera, not to mention whatever the internal improvements are. I'm expecting LTE, NFC, quad core (or at least an A5X). These are all things people seem to think they want. Just like how everyone wanted a retina display iPad. Yet the second it's released, it's "boring".

I'm referring to Apple, Google, and everyone else when I say that the tech industry is not going to be revolutionary every 6 months or even every year. Someone is going to get a great idea at some point about a different way to use cellular technology.....maybe Google Glass is the next step, or at least a precursor to the next big thing, maybe it's not.

So, in short, if you're in the market for a new iPhone, get the new one. If not, don't. But I just don't understand what some of you are expecting.
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Amen mate. All I've really wanted with a new iPhone is LTE and a 4" screen. The fact that it's going to be thinner and have a metal backing is a huge bonus.

95% of the time I can easily read text in portrait mode. For very text heavy sites like NY Times desktop page I can now simply flip it to landscape and take advantage of the new screen.

I promise you that once people handle this phone, most will change their tune and this forum will be very-pro new iPhone come late September. You will all see.
 
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