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A New PowerPC laptop in 2020?!?!
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This sounds very interesting to me. I'm going to check out the link and keep my eye on the project, maybe even donate to it as well.
You hit the nail right on the head for me. A great shape 1GHz TiBook in great shape is a dream come true!!!
Heck yes!
The project has been promising a PowerPC laptop since 2014. That is the definition of vaporware. Six years is a long long time to not even have a PCB, let alone a prototype, let alone a working laptop. Translation to English: Not going to happen. Save your money for a Blackbird (Raptor) or Talos 2, if you have some compiling and programming chops and absolutely positively have to have a Power system. Or, if you can stand the heat, hold out for a free quad core G5, which in 2020, thanks mostly to users of this forum you can still install multiple PowerPC Linux distros on. Wicknix's Lubuntu 16.04 and 12.04 remixes. Void. Adele. Fienix. Debian Sid. MintPPC project. If you can't stand the work to get Linux working smoothly on your Power Mac there is always Mac OS X Leopard, which is still a usable OS for almost every routine daily task. With tenfourfox you can comfortably browse the web, provided you install foxPEP and ublock orgin. You can even watch youtube comfortably in Leopard Webkit or TenfiveTube. There is also OpenBSD. None of the above are vaporware. They exist. They are real, not pure utter fantasy.
I spent some time earlier today reading their posts from the past 3 years and I don't think you really understand what this projects goal is about. Perhaps you also don't know how the people working on it are associated together and how they chose to fund the project and how they chose to move it forward a phase at a time. Their stated goal isn't even to end up with a product to manufacturer and sell.
I have also periodically dropped in and read their posts, and I do sorta understand the nature of the project, but what I don't understand is the point of not having a product to manufacture or sell. I believe there's a word for that, and that's vaporware. I would love to be wrong...there was another company that was going to make a PowerPC SBC, I signed up for that, put some money towards the project and never saw anything. Until there is a physical object in mine or someones hands its...vaporware.
Guys, don't worry.. Believe me Intel will finally die on the Mac and PowerPC will transfer its soul into ARM. When Apple finally drops intel(bad choice from the beginning) for ARM.. PowerPC will live again, maybe not in what know of, but ARM is a cousin to PowerPC.
Wether they planned to have a product or just wanted it as some sort of research project doesn't really matter.
What was (would have been) a slightly underpowered but fresher PB_G4 replacement in 2014 will be a complete joke when (if) it gets released in 2022-25.
What was (would have been) a slightly underpowered but fresher PB_G4 replacement in 2014 will be a complete joke when (if) it gets released in 2022-25.
Yeah, it's not cheap. But when I think that I paid $3,000 for a QuadG5 in 2005 the price isn't that bad. I paid $2,600 for the Quad POWER9 in 2018.
What do you mean by GPU compatibility? I use a RX 5500 XT.
POWER9 Hardware Compatibility List/PCIe Devices - RCS Wiki
Motorola wasn't happy with it, who says so?
First off, Motorola couldn't get the G5 finished. Second, Motorola was in big trouble because Intel was hiring a lot of chip designers from Motorola at the time. Motorola then sued Intel. The content of the lawsuit was tacitly agreed.
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According to RaptorCS the CPU is not the problem.
Not really.....
The "G" stands for generation with G1 being the 601/602 and G2 the 603/4 but those names weren't used commonly.
It changed with the "G3" which exist both in Moto and IBM form. Moto than added Altivec and dubbed the chips G4.
When Apple got IBM to scale down the Power4 to the 970 they decided to market the systems as G5.
If they ever have a physical product to sell, I'll eat my foot. This is the epitome of vaporware.
Funding mechanism
This association do only collect money for the prototypes. aCube or any other company could sell the notebook then.
If I may offer my input... I feel that the title of the thread, not the actual project, is what leads people to call this vaporware. If the project doesn't have the capability to produce and sell commercial products, then the thead's title is inaccurate and is the point that is causing confusion for many.
I interpret the thread title as a question. A question is never wrong.
The project is still about $50,000 short and then in the end someone has to produce and sell it. It could be short by 2020.
If it's ever sold, it's not gonna be sold until 2025. My guess.
The project is still about $50,000 short and then in the end someone has to produce and sell it. It could be short by 2020.
If it's ever sold, it's not gonna be sold until 2025. My guess.
I see it as a question too, but more of a rhetorical question. One to build intrigue and hype as opposed to an actual question.
Well, Intel did not crush Power architecture, despite Jobs turning away from it.
It is obviously a very niche product, if it ever gets released. But the very fact of this discussion happening proves that some demand for it exists. I am rather concerned with it being uneconomical, not even relevant to performance, but in absolute terms.