A new Virulent strain HIV


daveL

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wdlove said:
A strain of HIV in NYC is quite virulent, it has been noted to be resistant to three of the currently used medications. It also converts from a HIV infection to AIDS in two or three months. A wake up call in the medical community, it has the potential to be very serious.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=azBO_AumTJhs
I saw this last night. I've always felt that this was likely to happen eventually, given how widely HIV has spread and the amount of time its been out there. They say just the shear number of human beings on the planet makes us ripe for new bugs.
 

apple2991

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This is really frightening.

It's stuff like this that makes me think physical relationships aren't even worth it. That's it, I'm never having sex again.

Not that there was much chance of that anyway.
 

chanoc

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I am absolutely shocked at the number of women I have meet through online dating services that say, "I'm clean and on birth control. We don't need to use protection." :eek: :rolleyes:

I am currently banging a chick on intermittent meetings, and we use protection. :cool:

Otherwise, I go the safe route with Internet porn and masturbation.;)
 

CorvusCamenarum

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chanoc said:
I am absolutely shocked at the number of women I have meet through online dating services that say, "I'm clean and on birth control. We don't need to use protection." :eek: :rolleyes:

I am currently banging a chick on intermittent meetings, and we use protection. :cool:

Otherwise, I go the safe route with Internet porn and masturbation.;)
Not only that, but according to the article, the man in question has unprotected sex with multiple partners, and is a drug addict to boot. God only knows how many other people there are to whom he's given this nightmare. Someone should staple a condom to this guy's weiner.
 

rainman::|:|

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well thank god abstinence-only education is working so well at preventing the spread of HIV... oh, wait, it actually may increase it? Hum... Maybe this will make people realize honest education and discussion is the best weapon we have right now...

for instance, a lot of the gay community refuses to acknowledge the meth-driven high-risk sex in big cities that's beginning to look like HIV epidemic breeding grounds... They don't want the heteros out there hearing about this kind of behavior (it's just a few bad apples in the gay community, fyi). Unfortunately these high-risk people get infected and then infect lots of people that don't go to meth-orgies... so it's for the gay community that we must encourage discussion about this activity. If a few hets think poorly of all of us, so be it.
 

CorvusCamenarum

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daveL said:
Don't you have to change them every now and then?
Eh good point Dave. How about covering it with a substance that causes uncomfortable burning if exposed to open air for more than five minutes at a time.

I'm sorry, I just have no sympathy for these people who go out and do retarded things like mind-altering drug use and then come home with a nice bucket of gonaherpasyhilaids for a souvenir. Call me cold-hearted if you like, but AIDS is just about 100% fatal and equally preventable.
 

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paulwhannel said:
well thank god abstinence-only education is working so well at preventing the spread of HIV... oh, wait, it actually may increase it? Hum... Maybe this will make people realize honest education and discussion is the best weapon we have right now...

for instance, a lot of the gay community refuses to acknowledge the meth-driven high-risk sex in big cities that's beginning to look like HIV epidemic breeding grounds... They don't want the heteros out there hearing about this kind of behavior (it's just a few bad apples in the gay community, fyi). Unfortunately these high-risk people get infected and then infect lots of people that don't go to meth-orgies... so it's for the gay community that we must encourage discussion about this activity. If a few hets think poorly of all of us, so be it.
Yes, honest education. Burying heads in the sand never helped.

There are plenty of minority groups that need information, too. It's kinda sad because many people don't want to know too much.
 

wdlove

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The problem is that HIV/AIDS is such a touchy subject. The community that is most at risk had become complacent recently because the current drug cocktail has worked so well. Lives have been extended and given a false sense of security to many. Hopefully this news will be a wake up call as mentioned in the article. The problem of drug resistance is serious for the HIV Virus and a growing number of bacteria. :(
 

maya

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somewhere between here and there.
Too many people have become reliant on drugs for every little illness they suffer that they forget that they are ruining they own bodies and giving the viruses and bacteria a reason to become super bugs.


People a common cold is not going to kill your or be fatal unless you are very old or young, live with the symptoms for a few days/weeks.

I see people running to the doctor or ER for every little thing these days. Why am I not surprised at this news? :rolleyes:
 

wdlove

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maya said:
Too many people have become reliant on drugs for every little illness they suffer that they forget that they are ruining they own bodies and giving the viruses and bacteria a reason to become super bugs.


People a common cold is not going to kill your or be fatal unless you are very old or young, live with the symptoms for a few days/weeks.

I see people running to the doctor or ER for every little thing these days. Why am I not surprised at this news? :rolleyes:
Yes, the problem is over use of prescriptions by physicians. Advertisements on TV don't help. I have heard doctors say that patients come into the office and if they don't get a medication it's a slight. Although I think that patients are getting better now due to education. The other problem is that when an antibiotic is prescribed, after a few day the patient feels better. Which is expected. The problem is that the patient stops the medication which is usually prescribed for 7 to 10 days. This allows the bacteria to build up a resistance to the antibiotic, because all of the bacteria aren't killed. That is because the medication is stopped prematurely.
 

CorvusCamenarum

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maya said:
Too many people have become reliant on drugs for every little illness they suffer that they forget that they are ruining they own bodies and giving the viruses and bacteria a reason to become super bugs.


People a common cold is not going to kill your or be fatal unless you are very old or young, live with the symptoms for a few days/weeks.

I see people running to the doctor or ER for every little thing these days. Why am I not surprised at this news? :rolleyes:
Just one of the reasons I don't support the notion of government run health care for all.
 

maya

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wdlove said:
Yes, the problem is over use of prescriptions by physicians. Advertisements on TV don't help. I have heard doctors say that patients come into the office and if they don't get a medication it's a slight. Although I think that patients are getting better now due to education. The other problem is that when an antibiotic is prescribed, after a few day the patient feels better. Which is expected. The problem is that the patient stops the medication which is usually prescribed for 7 to 10 days. This allows the bacteria to build up a resistance to the antibiotic, because all of the bacteria aren't killed. That is because the medication is stopped prematurely.
Prime example, FLU vaccination. I have seen teens, people in they 20, 30, 40's taking it. I mean come on people you are not going to die from it unless you already have a terminal illness at those age groups. The elderly and infants are the ones who should be getting the FLU shots, yet we have high school students running out to get them. Get a clue people if you do not need it you do not need to get it. I dislike how the healthcare community has misinformation for every stance. Seems more like a profit grab at best. Why am I not surprised on this as well. :rolleyes:
 

maya

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somewhere between here and there.

im_noahselby

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Can someone please explain to me what the difference between AIDS and HIV + is?

I have always thought that they were the same thing...

:confused:
 

daveL

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im_noahselby said:
Can someone please explain to me what the difference between AIDS and HIV + is?

I have always thought that they were the same thing...

:confused:
HIV is the virus that invades the body, but it lies dormant for some time. AIDS is what happens to the body when the virus becomes active. I'm sure others can elaborate.
 

CorvusCamenarum

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im_noahselby said:
Can someone please explain to me what the difference between AIDS and HIV + is?

I have always thought that they were the same thing...

:confused:
The way I understand it, AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) is the actual disease, and HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) is what causes it. Not everyone that has HIV has AIDS (yet), but everyone who has AIDS has HIV. Once you're symptomatic, congratulations, you have AIDS.

If there's someone out there better versed in the medical sciences than I, please feel free to correct or amend.
 

Ugg

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CorvusCamenarum said:
The way I understand it, AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) is the actual disease, and HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) is what causes it. Not everyone that has HIV has AIDS (yet), but everyone who has AIDS has HIV. Once you're symptomatic, congratulations, you have AIDS.

If there's someone out there better versed in the medical sciences than I, please feel free to correct or amend.
That is a simple and clear answer. Very well put.

There are many people out there who have been HIV positive for years and years, are not taking medications and are healthy, others progress very quickly from HIV to full blown AIDS, others do very well on medication, others don't. The virus is very smart in that it is constantly throwing out new mutations. The current era of controlling it via medication may be short lived if mutations like this one in NY become widespread.
 

Lacero

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The bubonic plague for the 21st century. Damn, this is some scary stuff.
 

angelneo

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I think I read somewhere where some minority people regard it as "The gift" and they just want to get AIDS and be over with it. A bit shocking for me though.
 

im_noahselby

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angelneo said:
I think I read somewhere where some minority people regard it as "The gift" and they just want to get AIDS and be over with it. A bit shocking for me though.
That is one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard of. Why would any human being wish a death sentence upon themselves?...