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A Small Orange -- web hosting / domain registration
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apple2991 said:
I like to register separate from a web host, because it allows me to make changes without being bound to the webhost. Personally I use NamesDirect.com, but their site has degraded in performance big time lately. They offer full DNS management through MyDomain.com which allows you to manage your own site/email/forwarding/etc. if you want.
To me they all do the same thing roughly, so price and support is the main deciding factor.
Sorry, but A Small Orange isn't the best out there in terms of value for money. I've been with Hasweb for eighteen months now, and what I get from them for US$20 per year (price has increased now, so I'm somewhat lucky in this) is 500MB of space, unlimited pretty much everything, 10GB bandwidth, and excellent customer service (tried and tested many times due to errors on my part 
).
The price for the same package now is US$35 per year, which is better than ASO's $60 per year 'Small' package. I'd recommend Hasweb to anyone, and though I've not used ASO myself - and don't doubt they're a good company - I've had enough experience with Hasweb to know they're a proper outfit. Speedy servers too, visit my website to see.
Compare Hasweb's Hosting Plans to ASO's Hosting Plans to see what I mean.
There's probably ones out there even cheaper than Hasweb - anyone know of them?
).The price for the same package now is US$35 per year, which is better than ASO's $60 per year 'Small' package. I'd recommend Hasweb to anyone, and though I've not used ASO myself - and don't doubt they're a good company - I've had enough experience with Hasweb to know they're a proper outfit. Speedy servers too, visit my website to see.
Compare Hasweb's Hosting Plans to ASO's Hosting Plans to see what I mean.
There's probably ones out there even cheaper than Hasweb - anyone know of them?
thequicksilver said:
Hasweb does not offer unlimited domains unless you buy thier Virtual Server for $599.00...
ASO has response time of > 15min. 24hrs a day in my experience (i received an email response in 10 min at almost midnight on a Sunday). unlimited everything and unbelievable response times are what sold me.
*oh yeah, reselling is much easier and cheaper with ASO.i'll stick with Tim and his A Small Orange hosting service.
btw- it looks like they're getting ready to start up the automated service again soon ... they even stopped taking manual orders.
peace.
You guys are so loyal to ASO, its baffling to me. Personally I look at the best value and if the experience is the same, why not save some money? You have to admit ASO offers weak plans for the price.
If you want to resell, the use Surpass Hosting (http://www.surpasshosting.com) and I am sure there are others at even less.
A 10GB/100GB reseller plan is $25/month. ASO is $35/month for a 4.5GB/100GB. Cut that into 500MB/5GB $5 plans and you can bring in $100/month with Surpass but only $45/month with ASO (since you'll run out of storage) - to me thats a big difference.
Flaming to being in 10...9..8...7...
If you want to resell, the use Surpass Hosting (http://www.surpasshosting.com) and I am sure there are others at even less.
A 10GB/100GB reseller plan is $25/month. ASO is $35/month for a 4.5GB/100GB. Cut that into 500MB/5GB $5 plans and you can bring in $100/month with Surpass but only $45/month with ASO (since you'll run out of storage) - to me thats a big difference.
Flaming to being in 10...9..8...7...
kingjr3 said:
funny...
sorry, but it's not all about the money. anyways, those guys also charge extra for multiple domains... by the time i have a reseller and shared account with no limits (just like ASO) im paying more than i do now.
what i like about ASO is that all plans are no limits and any plan can be a re-seller (SSL) account if that option is chosen (or added later). the plan i bought has more than enough space/bandwidth ... what i pay for is the impeccable customer service and knowing my host will halt accounts if it feels it cannot handle the load; so it's current costumers notice no difference in thier service. if i wanted cheap, id buy a place that over sells it's servers and has a web page and plans that look like the were put together by PC programmers (ok, that's just ego talking). but honestly i like ASO from the moment i saw thier web page. im a designer so it had an immediate impact on me.
maybe it's the same reason i like apple ... it just feels right, ya know? you can tell when good people are behind something they are about.
peace.
kingjr3 said:
I haven't used either company, so this is just a general comment. Depending on what you're using the hosting for, there is quite often more to consider than just purely price. I would quite happily pay double if it meant I knew I was going to get a well set up server with good support.
However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place
Knox said:However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place
i was talking up ASO with my co-workers before i knew about the referal service. i was reffered by someone who didn't even take advantage of the referral option.
though, now that i know that it's there ... im all for it!
peace.
Hand on heart, it would honestly make no difference. ASO are by far the best host I've ever used. When I first recommended them to people I didn't even know about the referrer system...I'm not even so sure they had it in the early days.Knox said:However, the cynical part of me wonders whether ASO would still get as many recommendations if the referrer system wasn't in place
neut said:
Granted - I'll admit to not having taken this into account as it's not something that attracts me to the service. You could claim, however, that as ASO charge more for bandwidth and storage space that this more than evens itself out.
neut said:ASO has response time of > 15min. 24hrs a day in my experience (i received an email response in 10 min at almost midnight on a Sunday). unlimited everything and unbelievable response times are what sold me.
Likewise myself with Hasweb as regards support. I'm not a reseller so I can't comment either way on the reselling stuff.
neut said:
Cool, was just pointing out that ASO isn't the be all and end all of good hosting deals - and as you've pointed out, neither is Hasweb.
thequicksilver said:
for me it's very important and would be hard to even out ... im getting ready to take on 7 domains.
other services would charge me up the ass to host all these sites and have the option to resell to them if necessary and setup SSL shopping on sny of these sites. i can forsee this groeing into something bigger an like the option of having no limits.i like being in control of my domains and their web content ... now if i only knew how to be a better web admin i could get all this **** up and running; and this day job gets in the way too.
peace.
Hi there,
I'm not trying to troll, but these people do seem to offer a better deal (and offer WebDAV)...
At least two MR subscribers use them and recommend them... is there ANY reason I shouldn't go with them?
-RS
I'm not trying to troll, but these people do seem to offer a better deal (and offer WebDAV)...
At least two MR subscribers use them and recommend them... is there ANY reason I shouldn't go with them?
-RS
quidire said:
You want WebDAV. DreamHost has it, ASO doesn't. Both have been recommended. Just pick DreamHost. ASO is really nice, but that doesn't mean that you can't find service elsewhere.
Just a question? how do you like webDAV? just want to know how it is.
also do you really need it for the iCal server?
I use dreamhost. 2400MB of storage and 120GB/month trans so they are probably overselling but I still like them. They have been running a promotion for the past few months. During the sign up process, put in the promo code 777 and your first year of hosting wil be $9.24/year (NOT month). AND the domain is included in that price.
snkTab said:
I didn't mean to offend; ASO does seem to have better service. Dreamhost has better prices for any given level of account, and has adequate service, but its really the WebDAV issue for me.
How do I like webDAV? I don't know, I haven't signed up yet, and this will be my first experience with it. As far as I know, to use the service to sync multiple iCal calendars on different computers, you do need webDAV.
I really didn't mean to come across as an ASO basher or anything...
-RS
I wanted to go with ASO, found out they're on hold, didn't feel like calling, and just hours ago took advantage of DreamHost's $10/yr offer.
I am a complete newbie when it comes to this stuff, and I figure DreamHost will let me play around and learn. Hell, it's $10 for a freaking year (one time only).
Once I learn enough to be dangerous, it's likely I'll switch over to ASO if the reviews remain glowing. It's not like the $10 is a horrible loss if I do, and I'll likely want a better domain name anyway.
But, for those tempted to get their feet wet who won't be relying on it for business or critical purposes (uptime seems great, but that $10/yr thing is going to pile on the customers), DreamHost is an excellent thing to try. I'm now playing around with file uploads, and it'll be a day or two before I can see my domain, but I plan on having fun.
I am a complete newbie when it comes to this stuff, and I figure DreamHost will let me play around and learn. Hell, it's $10 for a freaking year (one time only).
Once I learn enough to be dangerous, it's likely I'll switch over to ASO if the reviews remain glowing. It's not like the $10 is a horrible loss if I do, and I'll likely want a better domain name anyway.
But, for those tempted to get their feet wet who won't be relying on it for business or critical purposes (uptime seems great, but that $10/yr thing is going to pile on the customers), DreamHost is an excellent thing to try. I'm now playing around with file uploads, and it'll be a day or two before I can see my domain, but I plan on having fun.
quidire said:
=P i didn't mean to come across as offended. maybe my tone was wrong. I just wanted to point out that as long as other give dreamhost a thumbs up then most likely you will be plenty satisfied with it also.
I just signed up at DreamHost myself - fantastic deal and a great way to get my feet wet, and allow a better way to share things like desktop pictures without the PITA reduction to 100KB.jsw said:
I've done some website development (if you could call it that) in the past using my ISP's service, but I'm excited about having my own domain. I'm hoping DreamHost is the same. We'll see how it works out, but for $10, how can I pass it up?
I've just signed up with dreamhost to give it a try, $10 for the year is too good to pass up. hopefully I'll be able to keep the site next year when I need to pay full price, but I will worry about that then.
I'll rate it after using it for a while.
I'll rate it after using it for a while.
Yeah, I had to do it to. I dropped my .mac account recently, but even at full price ($120 for the year) this seems like a much better deal if what you need is storage and e-mail. I haven't gotten too far into it, but I am assuming you can secure the site for storing data. Any ideas or experience from anyone on that?Wyvernspirit said:
quidire said:
hmmm, WebDAV looks interesting ... to bad ASO doesn't have it.
the domain limit and overselling deters me from places like DreamHost.
peace.