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I would like to preface this post by reminding everyone that the numbers represented in this post won't reflect real-world performance as they never do but rather simply a numerical way to grasp the speed improvements generation to generation. What I did was take the average scores of the old iPad Pro (12.9) and iPad Air 2 in Geekbench 4. To get the estimated scores for the new iPad Pro I simply took the current Pro scores and multiplied each by the claimed 30% and 40% improvements Apple claimed for the CPU and GPU respectively, then took that number and added it to the current iPad Pro score.

Geekbench 4 Comparision

iPad Air 2
Single Core: 1,750
Muti Core: 4,230
Compute: 7,500

iPad Pro 1st generation
Single Core: 3,028
Multi-Core: 4,950
Compute: 15,000

iPad Pro 2nd generation
Single Core: 3,928
Multi-Core: 9,075
Compute: 28,000

Macbook 2017 (Core i5-7Y57)
Single Core:3,900
Multi-Core:6,800
Compute: 16,500

In conclusion, we can see the new iPad Pro looks to be a very solid upgrade overall especially when looking at all the Air 2 users the new A10X is essentially 2X faster. The GPU is even more impressive, as it's essentially 4x faster than the Air 2 GPU was. When compared to the updated 2017 Macbook, or at least its Core M5...oh sorry "i5" the new iPad Pro was essentially identical in single core performance and ~30% faster in multicore. When compared to the Intel HD 615 graphics the iPad Pro GPU is 200% faster. Overall once you put the performance of the new iPad Pro into perspective it is downright impressive considering the thermal envelope it has to fit into all while achieving the 10-hour battery life. Feel free to comment if I made a mathematical error please let me know so I can correct it. Keep in mind I was bored and made this using simplified math, final results will vary :)
 
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Nice analysis. Something that muddles the water is that A10X has three strong cores and A9X only two. I hope that the 30% CPU performance increase refers to single thread and not only multicore improvements. We will see in a few days when the iPad pro 2 is shipped. It will probably be powerful enough for anything in the app store.
 
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Nice analysis. Something that muddles the water is that A10X has three strong cores and A9X only two. I hope that the 30% CPU performance increase refers to single thread and not only multicore improvements. We will see in a few days when the iPad pro 2 is shipped. It will probably be powerful enough for anything in the app store.
I was wrong the 30% is simply single core performance compared to A9X while when compared to other iPads Apple sorta reveals the full power of this.
 
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dallas112678

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Considering that multicore score far surpasses 30% (claimed by Apple) improvement compared to the A9X I have to assume that entry must be fake. Boi would that be nuts though actually the A11X will probally be close to around that

How is it fake? It has roughly 30% more single core performance like Apple claimed, but it ALSO has 50% more cores. It makes total sense the multicore score would be higher taking that into account.

Oh and 4Gb ram :)
 

Kulfon

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Nice analysis, but what do they do in real life? I think what is required of iPads is a disruptive new ways of doing something. I cannot replace my laptop with an ipad for business, period. Software is not there.
 

omgitscro

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Considering that multicore score far surpasses 30% (claimed by Apple) improvement compared to the A9X I have to assume that entry must be fake. Boi would that be nuts though actually the A11X will probally be close to around that

If we could see the full upper bound on performance afforded by having an extra core, we should expect around 10k multicore by extrapolating from the A9X's performance (5000 * 1.3 * 1.5). Around 9k is reasonable given the overhead limitations.
 

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You should have mention that IPP 2.gen. has 120hz screen. How does that effect to the performance? I'm willing to say that IPP 2.gen. 12.9" has roughly the same real world performance than the 1.5 year old IPP 12.9", because it has double the freshrate 120hz vs 60hz.

10.5" IPP is a different story because it has less pixels to push but still propably the same 4gb of ram.
 

iPadDad

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You should have mention that IPP 2.gen. has 120hz screen. How does that effect to the performance? I'm willing to say that IPP 2.gen. 12.9" has roughly the same real world performance than the 1.5 year old IPP 12.9", because it has double the freshrate 120hz vs 60hz.

10.5" IPP is a different story because it has less pixels to push but still propably the same 4gb of ram.

Depends on the CPU clock speed, often the larger models have higher clock speeds
 

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You should have mention that IPP 2.gen. has 120hz screen. How does that effect to the performance? I'm willing to say that IPP 2.gen. 12.9" has roughly the same real world performance than the 1.5 year old IPP 12.9", because it has double the freshrate 120hz vs 60hz.

10.5" IPP is a different story because it has less pixels to push but still propably the same 4gb of ram.

The refresh rate isn't fixed at 120 Hz though, it's dynamic and can increase/decrease depending on the situation. So if you're doing something which doesn't require high refresh rates then the refresh rate will be much lower than 120 Hz, presumably 60 Hz
 
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jumpingjackflash

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The refresh rate isn't fixed at 120 Hz though, it's dynamic and can increase/decrease depending on the situation. So if you're doing something which doesn't require high refresh rates then the refresh rate will be much lower than 120 Hz, presumably 60 Hz

Browsing web, scrolling through email, scrolling facebook etc. Basicly everything that requires movement uses that 120hz. Lower framerates applies only to static content or some video. Even dragging and dropping content on iOS 11 uses 120hz. Also Dynamic freshrate is designed mainly to save battery life and it's main purpose is not to increase performance.
 

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Nice analysis. Something that muddles the water is that A10X has three strong cores and A9X only two. I hope that the 30% CPU performance increase refers to single thread and not only multicore improvements. We will see in a few days when the iPad pro 2 is shipped. It will probably be powerful enough for anything in the app store.


I had to laugh at this one. Are you kidding me, there's nothing in the App Store for the iPad that will tax the new iPad Pro two or even on the iPad Pro one.
 

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I had to laugh at this one. Are you kidding me, there's nothing in the App Store for the iPad that will tax the new iPad Pro two or even on the iPad Pro one.
I know, I have a iPP 12.9 One through work. Would like to see apps that actually pushes the iPP Two as such apps will be of desktop class.
 

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the first ipad pro 9.7" with 2 gb ram cant keep with the 120hz in autocad 360 with big projects
so i think, those who use larger product and pro apps, they need the 10.5"
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Apple silicon design team is insane.

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3039823?baseline=3036382

The scores are absolutely legit. Look at most important thing, tho: increased L3 cache size compared to iPhone 7. It is on the same level now as is in mobile and desktop Intel CPUs o_O.
what about the upcoming A11 in sept? :D i wonder if they need to be better than 10X or its more than enough to be on par with it
 

koyoot

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IPC in A11 will be higher. Most importantly it will have new, Apple designed GPU.
 

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