In relative terms.
If they decide to release a MacBook, it should be compared with the latest MacBook.
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A14X Chip for First Apple Silicon Mac and New iPad Pro to Enter Mass Production in Fourth Quarter
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In relative terms.
If they decide to release a MacBook, it should be compared with the latest MacBook.
If this chip isn't at least 2-3x faster than the latest 10th gen Intel mobile chips then Apple has failed. Pack it up and go home.
wishful thinking
btw. without a running speech recognition (using custom-vokabulary) any computing power is nothing worth for us
They said they were making custom Mac chips and not reusing iPhone/iPads so the rumor about using the next iPhone chip seems sketchy.
The only meaningful spec bumps available atm would seem to be 5G, miniLED and the SoC. Those are all expected in the next version.
My guess is April 2021 +/- a month.
The 18 core iMac Pro, and 24/28 core Mac Pro are not for Apple customers? The Afterburner, Final Cut, and Logic are not or Apple customers?
Maybe.
(Probably not.)
The core audience? No, definitely not.
Those 24 cores you claim to max out start at $12k. You really want to measure the first Apple Silicon Mac by that standard?
The more-or-less-regular schedule wouldn't be until fall 2021. And they've just made a massive effective feature bump for the 2018 and 2020 models, with the Magic Keyboard (and support for third-party trackpads). So I see no need for them to expedite an iPad Pro update right now.
I want to measure the first desktop Apple Silicon Mac by that aye. AMD have 64 core CPU's for desktop. As said before for laptops 12/16 performance cores would be acceptable. We already have 8 core laptops. Apple aren't getting a free pass to build something that only just competes with AMD and Intel.
And just to add, a 64 core CPU is only £4000. That is more than acceptable for a BTO on a desktop.
Ehhhh. We don't really know what "custom" means.
I doubt they'll give them a completely different chip design, because… why?
They might name them differently. They might also prioritize things differently; the neural engine may not be as important on a Mac, relative to having more CPU cores.
But I think a reasonable guess is to start with the iPad Pro CPU, add some high-performance cores, and perhaps increase the clock.
I'd love to see the typical kind of application that makes good use of 64 cores. AOT compilation, video encoding, rendering, sure (and even then, two of those can mostly move to the GPU these days). Other than that, what on earth are you doing with all those cores?
Yup. Hotspot is not really a great alternative to embedded cellular. Yeah, it can somewhat substitute, especially for infrequent users.
But you burn through your phone battery, there’s no GPS so Find My isn’t nearly as useful as it could be and (the Mx co-processor could easily wake up occasionally and phone home long after the battery wouldn’t start the Mac itself) and I’m sure a number of other reasons I haven’t thought of yet.
Anyone who has ever used an iPad with cellular, or a cellular-equipped notebook (Dell, Lenovo, etc.) knows how great they are. The plans are affordable too, at least in the US.
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Why? For a MacBook? Is that the tool people will be using to discover the next prime number or decrypt secret messages from foreign adversaries?
I was beginning to think I was the only one bothered by this! I would be shocked if Apple puts an A chip in ANY Mac. “We have a new family of Mac silicon! Well, except for our 12” MacBook. That’ll just use the iPad chip, because, you know, it’s not a Mac—wait...”
Obviously, the A series chips and the new Mac chips will have huge similarities, but they will be different.
Apple showed ARM Linux running in a virtual machine during the keynote announcement.
Maybe. Or, the new 12” MacBook has category-beating performance with the MAC14Z SoC. Apple then uses that to sell you the new iPad Pro, which has now been upgraded to the incredible new MAC14Z SoC as well.
Imo for a desktop/laptop, 4 to 5 years of support is a bit too short.
That’s a really interesting idea. 🤔 That could be possible, but again, like you said, it won’t be called A-“anything”.
Why not? That’s their business after all 🙂
I hope someone does the work to virtualize x86-64 OSes though.
It’s doable I guess, with the smaller footprint being able to fit on mobile devices, maybe it’s only a matter of time before they stack up many and add active cooling too boot (is one running theory).
At the same time, 12 cores in 2010 are nowhere near as powerful and efficient as 12 today... even with the crazy stagnation that happened since ~2015 with Intel.
I don’t know exactly what you are doing that requires such a heavy multithreaded approach, I know 3D renderers and some phases for compiling code can eat as many cores as they are given for example, but for 99% of users 12 core is already above and beyond.
Apple has a central warehouse in the US as well, and it receives (and dispatches) many pallets per day to replenish Apple Stores and other retailers.
Docker images, VM's, photo editing, video editing. There are a whole host of workflows that require or benefit from lots of cores. When I am developing I am spinning up 50+ Docker images to run tests against. If you have a use for 8 cores, you have a use for more. My 2010 Mac Pro has 2x 6 cores and 128 GB RAM, that's 10-year-old tech.
There's also no API to signify that applications should avoid using too much data.
Exactly.