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A20 and A20 Pro Chips (2nm) Expected to Debut in These iPhone Models

now i see it said:
New processors are dandy but whatever TSMC giveth, the future OS will taketh away.
This maxim has been true since the advent of personal computing.
The original slogan decades ago was, "What itel giveth, Microsoft taketh away"
i.e. .. faster new processor but slower new OS
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I haven't wanted for more speed on my phone since the iPhone 6. These things all feel lightning fast for years now
 
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Apple silicon is on fire. That is the heart of innovation and they are head and shoulders above the rest. More of this, less follow the loser on failed platforms and trinkets like foldable phones or "glass-hole" glasses. That's not innovation. That's follow the loser.
 
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rp2011 said:
Apple silicon is on fire. That is the heart of innovation and they are head and shoulders above the rest. More of this, less follow the loser on failed platforms and trinkets like foldable phones or "glass-hole" glasses. That's not innovation. That's follow the loser.
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ChatGPT:


Short answer: Yes — the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Elite is finally very close to — and in some metrics is even exceeding — the latest Apple A19 Pro (and earlier Apple chips) in performance.





Here are some key details to unpack so you can see what “caught up” really means:














✅ Where Snapdragon has caught up / overtaken








  • In multi-core CPU benchmarks, the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 (the newer version) has posted numbers that match or even slightly beat the A19 Pro. For example, one listing shows Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 scored ~11,525 in Geekbench vs ~11,054 for the A19 Pro.
  • Against older Apple chips (e.g., A18, A18 Pro) the Snapdragon 8 Elite already had significant margins in many benchmarks (AnTuTu & multi-core) showing stronger hardware in certain specs.
  • In memory bandwidth and GPU / floating point strengths the Snapdragon series often pulled ahead in raw spec comparisons. For example, in one comparison the Snapdragon 8 Elite (Gen 4) showed higher memory bandwidth.
















❗ Where Apple still retains advantages








  • Single-core CPU performance (which matters a lot for everyday snappiness) still tends to favour Apple. For example, some data show Apple’s chip leading in single-core Geekbench.
  • Efficiency, thermals, ecosystem optimisation: Apple’s tight integration of hardware + software gives an advantage in real-world use (battery, sustained performance) which raw numbers don’t always capture.
  • Real-world GPU / graphics / ray-tracing may still favour Apple in some workloads: e.g., one article said the A19 Pro “excels on a heavy ray-tracing benchmark … Snapdragon 8 Elite is significantly weaker there.”
















🔍 My verdict








So, to answer your question: Yes — the Snapdragon 8 Elite has essentially “caught up” in many performance metrics and is a serious competitor to Apple’s flagship chips.


But: it’s not a clear, across‐the‐board dominant win in every category yet. Apple still holds some edges, especially in single‐core performance/efficiency and ecosystem benefits.
 
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N0ughtsAndCr0sses said:
ChatGPT:


Short answer: Yes — the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Elite is finally very close to — and in some metrics is even exceeding — the latest Apple A19 Pro (and earlier Apple chips) in performance.





Here are some key details to unpack so you can see what “caught up” really means:














✅ Where Snapdragon has caught up / overtaken








  • In multi-core CPU benchmarks, the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 (the newer version) has posted numbers that match or even slightly beat the A19 Pro. For example, one listing shows Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 scored ~11,525 in Geekbench vs ~11,054 for the A19 Pro.
  • Against older Apple chips (e.g., A18, A18 Pro) the Snapdragon 8 Elite already had significant margins in many benchmarks (AnTuTu & multi-core) showing stronger hardware in certain specs.
  • In memory bandwidth and GPU / floating point strengths the Snapdragon series often pulled ahead in raw spec comparisons. For example, in one comparison the Snapdragon 8 Elite (Gen 4) showed higher memory bandwidth.
















❗ Where Apple still retains advantages








  • Single-core CPU performance (which matters a lot for everyday snappiness) still tends to favour Apple. For example, some data show Apple’s chip leading in single-core Geekbench.
  • Efficiency, thermals, ecosystem optimisation: Apple’s tight integration of hardware + software gives an advantage in real-world use (battery, sustained performance) which raw numbers don’t always capture.
  • Real-world GPU / graphics / ray-tracing may still favour Apple in some workloads: e.g., one article said the A19 Pro “excels on a heavy ray-tracing benchmark … Snapdragon 8 Elite is significantly weaker there.”
















🔍 My verdict








So, to answer your question: Yes — the Snapdragon 8 Elite has essentially “caught up” in many performance metrics and is a serious competitor to Apple’s flagship chips.


But: it’s not a clear, across‐the‐board dominant win in every category yet. Apple still holds some edges, especially in single‐core performance/efficiency and ecosystem benefits.
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That was a long winded way to agree that Apple is ahead.

Qualcomm with former Apple Silicon employees are getting closer sure, but Apple is still ahead and is going to take some of the Qualcomm wireless modem chips monopoly as the go forward too.

Competition is a wonderful thing!
 
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