General A5 device speed

Jordan246

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Do you think ios 8.1 will speed up the performance of the A5 devices out there
 

Julien

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No. They will be purposely slowed down forcing you to upgrade.
This is not true. Operating systems are always expanding in size and complexity, plus added features for the newer hardware. This will cause the slowdown on older hardware naturally. This is and has almost always been the case with newer operating systems on older hardware.
 

sanke1

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This is not true. Operating systems are always expanding in size and complexity, plus added features for the newer hardware. This will cause the slowdown on older hardware naturally. This is and has almost always been the case with newer operating systems on older hardware.
Sorry you didn't get the sarcasm. Will post /s from next time.
 

MisakixMikasa

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This is not true. Operating systems are always expanding in size and complexity, plus added features for the newer hardware. This will cause the slowdown on older hardware naturally. This is and has almost always been the case with newer operating systems on older hardware.
That is not true at all. Google managed to get newer Android on lower end devices without slowing down and cutting features, Microsoft managed to get their Windows on older computers. Heck, my old Pentium Dual Core machine runs good from Windows XP all the way to Windows 10.
 

Johnick

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Do you think ios 8.1 will speed up the performance of the A5 devices out there
I hope so, my 5th Gen iPod Touch runs 8.02 perfectly, but Ive heard so many horror stories about the iPad 2 I'm glad I stayed on 7.1.2. It was the same situation last year with the regular 4s on iOS 7, but then they fixed it with 7.1 so here's hoping.
 

iolinux333

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This is not true. Operating systems are always expanding in size and complexity, plus added features for the newer hardware. This will cause the slowdown on older hardware naturally. This is and has almost always been the case with newer operating systems on older hardware.
That word "almost."

Windows 7 was faster than Vista and 8 faster still.

OS X had an optimization release.

iOS 7.1 was MUCH faster than 7.0 on all devices.

If enough people bitch sometimes the megacorps pause and listen for a minute.
 

Paddle1

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iOS 8.1 beta brings no noticeable performance improvements, expect nothing in that area.
 

deviant

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That is not true at all. Google managed to get newer Android on lower end devices without slowing down and cutting features, Microsoft managed to get their Windows on older computers. Heck, my old Pentium Dual Core machine runs good from Windows XP all the way to Windows 10.
So does my iMac with dual core from tiger straight to Yosemite. What's your point?
 

teknikal90

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That is not true at all. Google managed to get newer Android on lower end devices without slowing down and cutting features, Microsoft managed to get their Windows on older computers. Heck, my old Pentium Dual Core machine runs good from Windows XP all the way to Windows 10.
this.
 

fardeenah

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this sucks, i might get an android next time, ios releases are seriously lagging devices years after years
 

deviant

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your iphone doesnt last as long as your imac.
even though chances are, your iphone has a faster processor and comparable RAM than your Tiger era iMac.
I was saying that indeed you can't compare iPhones to computers. And no, my 2007 iMac is still miles ahead of iPhone 6 plus, lol, what are talking about.
 

peglegjack

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This is not true. Operating systems are always expanding in size and complexity, plus added features for the newer hardware. This will cause the slowdown on older hardware naturally. This is and has almost always been the case with newer operating systems on older hardware.
My 2007 iMac running Yosemite says otherwise. That machine runs flawlessly and better than it did when I first bought it over 7 years ago.

No, this is an iOS occurrence, plain and simple. It happens because the iPhone is their main source of revenue.
 

rbart

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It's not perfect but 8.1 has really improved my ipad3.
It's smoother, ans safari works better.
My iPad is more usable now
 

teknikal90

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I was saying that indeed you can't compare iPhones to computers. And no, my 2007 iMac is still miles ahead of iPhone 6 plus, lol, what are talking about.
and i'm saying why can't you compare them?
they're both modern computers with modern OS.

sure your specific 2007 imac may still be miles ahead of the iPhone but i'm saying the chips inside these iphones are no slouch. if my old 2006 windows pc can run windows 8 no problem, 8 years after release, why cant my 2 year old iphone run ios 8 smoothly?

not a comprehensive evidence but geekbench is calibrated such that a score of 2500 = a core i5 2.5ghz.

my iphone 6's geekbench score is 2900.
 

RoboWarriorSr

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A i5 does not have a geek bench score of 2500. The i5 on the MacBook Air from a few years ago gets around at least ~5000. My Core Duo from 2009 gets 2500. Also Arm vs X86.
 

Armen

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That is not true at all. Google managed to get newer Android on lower end devices
Are you specifically talking about the Nexus line?

The reason why I ask is because 90% of Android Phones made by companies like Samsung, HTC, Moto, LG and others cram so much of their garbage (Sense, Touchwiz, Blur etc) into their phones there is no room to update to a newer version of Android down the line because of the lack of internal space and it's well known that every new version of Android usually takes up more internal storage.
 

MisakixMikasa

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Are you specifically talking about the Nexus line?

The reason why I ask is because 90% of Android Phones made by companies like Samsung, HTC, Moto, LG and others cram so much of their garbage (Sense, Touchwiz, Blur etc) into their phones there is no room to update to a newer version of Android down the line because of the lack of internal space and it's well known that every new version of Android usually takes up more internal storage.
Samsung is biggest offender on bloatware. HTC and Moto are not so bad. I have Moto G and Moto X, Android is running just fine. Especially with Moto G and Moto X, it runs near stock Android with only one Moto app.

Update sould not really problem though. Lots of Android phone actually provide SD card and users can simply move everything to SD card. Now I switch back to iPhone with iPhone 6, however, I can honestly say, my old 8GB Moto G without any SD expansion never had problem on updating software. I updated from Android 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 to 4.4.4.

Google is also pushing their Android L into lower tire phone named Android One. Those phone are gonna be blow $100 or so. Google provide Android and software updates and OEMs provides hardware. I think Android One will basically provide pure Android experience and quickly software updates.
 

Armen

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Samsung is biggest offender on bloatware. HTC and Moto are not so bad. I have Moto G and Moto X, Android is running just fine. Especially with Moto G and Moto X, it runs near stock Android with only one Moto app.

Update sould not really problem though. Lots of Android phone actually provide SD card and users can simply move everything to SD card. Now I switch back to iPhone with iPhone 6, however, I can honestly say, my old 8GB Moto G without any SD expansion never had problem on updating software. I updated from Android 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 to 4.4.4.

Google is also pushing their Android L into lower tire phone named Android One. Those phone are gonna be blow $100 or so. Google provide Android and software updates and OEMs provides hardware. I think Android One will basically provide pure Android experience and quickly software updates.

The internal storage on the phone has 2 partitions. One partition is reserved for user apps and the other partition is for the operating system itself.

You cannot free up any space on the OS partition of the phone so if a newer version of Android comes along that requires more space you cannot install it.